I'll stop calling the Bush administration "Orwellian" when they stop using 1984 as an operations manual.* From Kevin Drum:
Calpundit: The Memory Hole Revisited: THE MEMORY HOLE REVISITED....April 23, 2003, USAID administrator Andrew Natsios chats with Ted Koppel about the cost of rebuilding Iraq on Nightline:
TED KOPPEL
(Off Camera) And we're back once again with Andrew Natsios, administrator for the Agency for International Development. I want to be sure that I understood you correctly. You're saying the, the top cost for the US taxpayer will be $1.7 billion. No more than that?ANDREW NATSIOS
For the reconstruction. And then there's 700 million in the supplemental budget for humanitarian relief, which we don't competitively bid 'cause it's charities that get that money.TED KOPPEL
(Off Camera) I understand. But as far as reconstruction goes, the American taxpayer will not be hit for more than $1.7 billion no matter how long the process takes?ANDREW NATSIOS
That is our plan and that is our intention. And these figures, outlandish figures I've seen, I have to say, there's a little bit of hoopla involved in this.This is from the Google cache. Oddly, though, it seems to have been removed from the USAID site itself — although the link is still alive and well here. Why do you suppose that is?
*It's not my line, but I forget whose it is.
Posted by DeLong at November 2, 2003 10:20 AM | TrackBack
I first heard it from Mark Kleiman.
Posted by: Michael Drake on November 2, 2003 10:54 AMOne thing I see is that decisions are being made and support recruited on occult principles that are not revealed to the general public. At the policy level this means that the actual decision-making process is secret, but at the level of support it means that a lot of people end up strongly and often violently supporting policies (specifically the Iraq war) without really knowing what the policies are. Thus arguments become pointless, as the reasons given for the war slide from al-Qaeda to WMD to liberating the Iraqis to whatever comes next without bothering supporters in the slightest.
It's an understatement to say that this is a rather sick way to carry on public discussion ("enthymemetic politics" -- let people fill in the blanks themselves). Considering that a lot of the support boils down to intense personal loyalty to our god-fearing, studly Maximum Leader, combined with vividly-expressed hatred for liberals, atheists, Europe, and Islam, I'm thinking of going into business selling tinfoil hats.
Posted by: Zizka on November 2, 2003 10:59 AMNatsios's lie may end up being one of the administration's many "technical lies" (viz http://www.calpundit.com/archives/002180.html copyright Drum). that is, it's distantly possible that only about $2 billion of the total, much larger costs of reconstruction will flow through USAID proper.
as USAID administrator, Natsios could plausibly claim his answer to Koppel's question (patently referring to total costs) referred to USAID alone. based on http://www.usaid.gov/iraq/activities.html USAID may indeed not yet have awarded more than $2B in contracts.
as Drum put it, "the technical lie [is] a statement that's very carefully constructed to leave an incorrect impression — but that turns out to be technically true if you parse it closely enough." I suppose it is just slightly cleverer than blankly asserting the chocoration is up again.
Question: Of which living US president was the following said, by a close advisor: 'He kept the promises he intended to keep'?
Posted by: George Zachar on November 2, 2003 02:38 PMAndrew Natsios is the same Andrew Natsios who understood southern Africa so little as to decide that medical treatment for AIDS sufferers would not be generally possible because Africans did not wear watches and would not know when to take medicine. The boob knew nothing about Africa and Africans but lo the boob was set to planning development in Iraq.
Posted by: lise on November 2, 2003 02:52 PMFatalities
American soldiers 237
British soldiers 18
Coalition soldiers 5
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260 Since May 2
American 376
British 51
Coalition 5
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432 Since March 20
Wounded
American soldiers ~2152 Since March 20
Note: American forces have fallen to 130,000
British forces have risen to 11,000
What precisely is our objective in remaining in Iraq? Could the Iraqis build a manner of confederated democracy by themselves now, or with a UN peace keeping force?
Posted by: Ari on November 2, 2003 03:25 PMThe cabal running this administration is anti-democratic to their core. Only they have ALL the answers to everything and have contempt for anyone who voices any vision even remotely counter to their "vision." The story in the NYT Sunday Magazine today, if accurate (and there is little doubt even in light of the paper's recent problems with fact checking that it is) exposes the sheer contempt the self-annointed have for democratic principals and opened minded detachment in policy formulation.
Posted by: Cal on November 2, 2003 05:34 PM$2 billion may have been a number that someone stuck on the civilian rebuilding side early on. They could probably rebuild for $2 billion if they employed Iraqis and Iraqi laborers. Instead they have issued contracts to Halliburton and friends who have to pay big insurance premiums, American scale wages, etc.
A state like Mississippi spends less than $2,000 per person for the entire state budget, Iraq with about 20 million could be funded to the tune of Mississippi for about $40 billion. $2 billion is about $100 per person. What part of the $40 billion was the US originally intending to pay?
We really don't know. I had an opportunity to hear Senator Lugar (Chair Senate Foreign Relations) speak last February and he was very critical of the administration for failing to build political support for the length of occupation that would be required and for funding the operation. Senator Lugar had no clue what the adminstration thought the costs would be.
It reminds me of my time share experience. Win free trip. The catch is having to spend a couple of hours with high pressure salesmen. They NEVER mention the price until the very last or unless you ask. They always extoll the benefits and try to get you to agree to buy the time share, then OBTW it ONLY costs $100,000 (or some outrageous price).
This administration has moved beyond Orwellian. They have turned to time share industry tactics to sell their policies.
Posted by: bakho on November 3, 2003 07:00 AM