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Nixon: When you get to Ehrlichman now, will you please get--I want you to find me a man by noon. I won't be ready until 12:30--a recommendation of the man to work directly with me on this whole situation. Do you know what I mean? I've got to have--I've got to have one--I mean, I can't have a high-minded lawyer like John Ehrlichman or, you know, Dean, or somebody like that. I want somebody just as tough as I am for a change.... These Goddamn lawyers, you know, all fighting around about, you know--I'll never forget....
Nixon: These kids don't understand. They have no understanding of politics. They have no understanding of public relations. John Mitchell is that way. John is always worried about: "Is it technically correct?" Do you think, for Christ's sake, that the New York Times is worried about all the legal niceties? Those sons of bitches are killing me. I mean, thank God, I leaked to the press ?during the Hiss case??]. This is what we've got to get--I want you to shake these [unintelligible] up around here. Now you do it. Shake them up. Get them off their Goddamn dead asses and say, now, "That isn't what you should be talking about." We're up against an enemy, a conspiracy. They're using any means. We are going to use any means. Is that clear?
Nixon: Did they get the Brookings Institute raided last night? No? Get it done. I want it done. I want the Brookings Institute's safe cleaned out and have it cleaned out in a way that it makes somebody else responsible....
All from Stanley L. Kutler, ed. (1997), Abuse of Power: The New Nixon Tapes (New York: Free Press: 0684841274), pp. 7-8.
And Arnold Schwarzenegger becomes the first American to proclaim himself a follower of Richard M. Nixon in thirty years.
Let's hope he did not grasp what he was saying.
Posted by DeLong at August 31, 2004 08:14 PM | TrackBack...Arnold..not only did he have no idea what he was saying, did you see the look on the 'delegates' faces?
Posted by: victoria bond at August 31, 2004 08:45 PMArnold would probably say that he admired Nixon’s rhetoric and public ideology-- not his transgressions. Arnold is a very charming man, and through much experience, I’ve learned not to trust charming people.
Posted by: A. Zarkov at August 31, 2004 08:50 PMthough you gotta admit, if any top republican official could pull off a role as a top rebulican official in a movie attempting to clear out safes at the brookings institute, it would be arnold.
Posted by: wunderdog at August 31, 2004 09:08 PMAhnuld should have qualified his remarks. Maybe with some quip about not being inspired by Nixon's love of stereophonic sound. But anyone with a quarter of a brain knows what the Governator was talking about - praising specific Nixonian remarks, not Nixon on the whole.
Take it from a guy who has no admiration for Bill Clinton but finds inspiration in his "courage to quit" speech. (Paraphrase from memory: "If we keep doing the same thing over and over again and it fails each time, we must have the courage to quit.")
Posted by: Alan K. Henderson at August 31, 2004 09:13 PM"Arnold would probably say that he admired Nixon’s rhetoric..."
wait a minute, didn't he say that about Hitler?
he has an amazing capacity to admire people selectively... or he is a closet fascist.
Posted by: Jean-Philippe Stijns at August 31, 2004 09:56 PMHey, "Abuse of Power," that just happens to be my preferred bathroom reading. It's plenty thick so while you're pushing one out you've got plenty more of the same to keep you entertained. I try to read it impersonating all of the voices. And I was just a little kid back during Watergate (I remember being pissed at my mom for watching the hearings while the Flintstones was on.) Their voices were so much better more comical and sinister than this gang.
Posted by: Barry Freed at August 31, 2004 09:59 PMOh, and don't forget: if you're the least bit worried about the economy, you're just a girlie man!
Posted by: Capt Willard at August 31, 2004 10:01 PMI believe Arnold was impressed with Nixon's secret plan to end the war. It is very similar to Bush's plan to bring peace to Iraq.
Posted by: Rob at August 31, 2004 10:02 PMArnold Schwartzenegger will be US president in 2008, so better be careful what you say about him. The FBI and Homeland Defense are building dossiers on everyone who joins a protest group or posts in a "counter-culture" blog like Kos, and the Federal judge you go before wouldn't care less that Arnold admires Hitler and Nixon.
This cult of personality is only culminating, not dwindling. The gaming of the media engine and politics by back-room focus group stats is being honed with the efficiency of a Spassky.
Bush-Cheney/RNC knows exactly what it's doing. We are being stroked like sheep ready to shear.
I only hope those poor schmucks who broadcast tragic photos of the Nepalese relief workers slaughtered in Iraq, at the same moment Bush was giving his guns and butter speech to veterans, can live with themselves when they wake up to the obvious ploy. The Nepalese ambassador said they never were able to make contact with any of the so-called kidnappers, nor was it ever clear who might have gained by this, with M. al-Sadr calling for an end to resistance on the same day.
All we are left with is the Saddamesque imagery, and George Bush gesticulating under a DoD super. Could the medium be any more messaged? Was this a way for Chalabi to buy his way back inside??
Poor Matt and Katy. It's amazing they can carry an on-live conversation with their lips stuck so firmly to Bush's ass, and no substantive comment.
Guess when you're rocking your soul in the bosom of Abraham, even if all is chaos, you just keep singing that old-time religion: fear and terror.
"(Bush) has to emphasize to the country that the *most important thing* is that he is leading the country in World War III," said Gary Harkins, 62, a Rankin County real estate developer."
Leading? Seven minutes as a jibbering chimp? Rolling over for the Donnie and Karl R. Show? Showing up at the WTC for a firemen photo op?
Admitting to Matt the US can't win this fight!?
And then Giuliani compared him to Churchill?!
This has definitely gone beyond the surreal into a theater of the absurd, we a captive audience. Gore, where are you when we need you? Doing XXX?
Sex is what's selling these days. Sex and fear.
You bloggers should read up on the final days of the Weimar Republic to get a perspective on what's happening in this country right now under the Republicans.
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Posted by: a at August 31, 2004 10:39 PMAs much as I hate to admit it, Arnold's speech was one of the most effective I have heard so far this election season (rivalled only by Obama). He hit all the key notes.
Did you notice his poise and timing? Kerry, Obama and even Edwards were a bit nervous, often talking over applause after their money lines. Arnold was smooth as silk and not nervous at all. That Hollywood training (cf. Reagan) does pay off in politics.
Forget about the content (the Nixon reference was really the only gaffe) and think about the effect of the speech on the average swing voter.
"As much as I hate to admit it, Arnold's speech was one of the most effective I have heard so far this election season (rivalled only by Obama). He hit all the key notes."
We might as well divide the presidency into two jobs; an head of state and a chief exec. Really clear that qualifications for being-a-public-figure part of the job have become separate from the the big-boss part.
Posted by: Randolph Fritz at August 31, 2004 11:45 PM"wait a minute, didn't he say that about Hitler?"
No I don't believe he did, but you have a reference share it with us.
Posted by: A. Zarkov at September 1, 2004 12:11 AMNixon didn't do all bad. He replaced the intractably evil Colby with Helms as head of CIA. That dramatically eased the way to reform.
He reduced the number of troops in Viet Nam from 500,000 to 50,000.
He played dirty, though, that is for sure, and his bigotry was gross.
Arnold is not a closet fascist, since he has openly claimed his admiration for Hitler.
Modern students of the late Leo Strauss(Wolfowitz, Perle, Bloom, David Brooks, Rumsfeld to a degree, Kristol?) are simply pro-semitic Fascists rather than anti-Semitic ones.
But the real Republican base are the evangelicals, and you are never going to reach them using logic or common sense, I recently tried my hand at archaeology.
Posted by: Josh Narins at September 1, 2004 02:34 AMExcuse me Brad, but here's the paragraph in question:
"I finally arrived here in 1968. I had empty pockets, but I was full of dreams. The presidential campaign was in full swing. I remember watching the Nixon and Humphrey presidential race on TV. A friend who spoke German and English, translated for me. I heard Humphrey saying things that sounded like socialism, which is what I had just left. But then I heard Nixon speak. He was talking about free enterprise, getting government off your back, lowering taxes and strengthening the military. Listening to Nixon speak sounded more like a breath of fresh air. "
Did he say he's a follower of Nixon? Repeat after me "Ad hominem".
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Posted by: sal at September 1, 2004 02:49 AMHItler was smarter than Ahnold. He roused the unemployed to fight with him. He didn't call them 'girly-men wusses'. There will be a lot more unemployed 'wusses' at the barricades if the 1% of millionaires succeed in fixing this election.
Other than that, I don't see much difference between them and their policies, whether explicitly stated (yet) or not.
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Posted by: bushwahd at September 1, 2004 05:10 AM"I admired Hitler, for instance, because he came from being a little man with almost no formal education up to power. I admire him for being such a good public speaker and for his way of getting to the people and so on. But I didn't admire him for what he did with it." (Corrected quote)
Schwarzenegger-Hitler
The interview was early in Schwarzenegger's film career and he was talking about his youth. Apparently he was not reaffirming this past admiration, though, but distancing himself from it.
Posted by: zizka / John Emerson at September 1, 2004 06:22 AMLink:
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Posted by: zizka / John Emerson at September 1, 2004 06:25 AMAttitudes towards Nixon reinforce the liberal/conservative 'alternate realities' meme... It's likely that Arnold has heard only the 'Nixon was a tough and brilliant politician' side of the story, and not the 'Nixon was psychopathic slime' part.
Posted by: Matt at September 1, 2004 07:21 AM"The interview was early in Schwarzenegger's film career and he was talking about his youth. Apparently he was not reaffirming this past admiration, though, but distancing himself from it."
It is still strange that he used the present tense to tell about his admiration about Hitler's rhetorics... Lapsus lingue?
Posted by: Jean-Philippe Stijns at September 1, 2004 07:23 AMI think that Arnold is a cynic, a success-worshipper and a demagogue, and people of that type are more tempted by Hitler than others are. But he isn't a crypto-Nazi, I don't think.
There are rumors that in his early days he dressed up as an SS officer. In the 70's any kind of attempt at shock was well-recieved.
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Posted by: Chuck Nolan at September 1, 2004 09:16 AMHarry Possue wrote, "Arnold Schwartzenegger will be US president in 2008, so better be careful what you say about him."
Except that the Constitution won't let him because he wasn't born a citizen.
Posted by: liberal at September 1, 2004 09:31 AMPrice controls! I can't believe that people have forgotten the Nixon administration's flirtation with price controls to combat inflation. I can't imagine anything a Humphrey Administration would have done that would have been so anti-market. (And then there's the whole Communist China thing, too.)
Posted by: James Withrow at September 1, 2004 09:33 AMIt's all political theatre, and historically, nonsense.
"I heard Humphrey saying things that sounded like socialism, which is what I had just left. But then I heard Nixon speak. He was talking about free enterprise, getting government off your back, lowering taxes and strengthening the military. Listening to Nixon speak sounded more like a breath of fresh air. "
When it came to social and environmental programs, Nixon was a *moderate liberal*. Not just a liberal rebublican, but a liberal. I think that he had a different take on it than Democrats. I think that he sas it more as necessary bread and circuses for the masses that doing good for the world. But he backed them nevertheless.
Many of Nixon's social policies would be considered not only socialist, but positively commie in todays political environment.
Schwarzenegger speech was cheerleading, and completely devoid of content. We will see how much staying power they have.
Posted by: jml at September 1, 2004 09:53 AMTHE TRUTH, YOU RETARD, IS THAT SHE'S THE BRILLIANT AND BEAUTIFUL SISTER OF BRAD'S WIFE.
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Posted by: lightning at September 1, 2004 03:32 PMLiberal wrote regarding prospects for a President Arnold:
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He still has a little mess to clean up in California before he can hit the campaign trail.
Posted by: vote no on (almost) all CA propositions at September 1, 2004 05:02 PMvote no on (almost all):
That is a good point. We have to see how CA comes out, and if it doesn't come out, whether it can be spun. Schwarzenegger the candidate advertised himself as a new-wave outside-the-box thinker, but as maximum gubernator on the CA budget problem he produced the same ancient Wilson/Davis hybrid non-fix retread non-solution -very old inside-the-box thinking. Except that one Wilson inside-the-box approach -tax hikes- are off the table. Some things, such as not enough money, are not spinnable, so I guess he is hoping that the economy will pick up to get him out of the mess (old Wilson/Davis approach again).
Meanwhile, he has produced a bunch of proposed outside-the-box fixes for things that show no sign at all of being broken -like rejiggering CA community college administrative organization. Supposedly this will save money, but the non-partisan CA budget analyst said that he has presented to evidence or analysis for this yet.
Schwarzenegger also has the old fashioned Davis approach to the legislature: he should decide what to do and they should rubber stamp it. Schwarzenegger's proposed deal with the prison guards was ultra-Davis to the max.
So Schwarzenegger's CA story has just begun. That said, he is a breath of fresh air in some ways -more bipartisan in a meaningful sense on appointments and negotiations.
But on the 8000-pound gorilla of the CA budget problem -nothing.
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