Seymour Hersh Prays for the Second Coming of Henry Kissinger : This is perfect shrillness: shrillness shriller than which none can be conceived. Seymour Hersh is the new Grand Heresiarch of the Order of the Shrill.
Posted by DeLong at September 21, 2004 10:27 AM | TrackBackOT: sorry, but this is bothering me: Does anyone know what the hell happened to Billmon over at Whiskey Bar? (billmon.org)...
One of my favorite reads...he posted something a month ago about going on a cruise (?) for a week...not a peep since. Any of you blog heavyweights have any clue?
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(posted this a couple of other places, sorry for the redundancy)
Posted by: michael at September 21, 2004 10:55 AMWe'll be seeing Sy Hersh speak in our town next month.
The man is a national treasure.
Posted by: Aladdin Sane at September 21, 2004 11:49 AMOh please. Ask the Iraqi Kurds or ask the East Timorese, or ask the Cambodians if they prefer Henry Kissinger over Paul Wolfowitz. There answer would really be shrill.
Posted by: ivan at September 21, 2004 12:36 PM>OT: sorry, but this is bothering me: Does anyone know what the hell happened to Billmon over at Whiskey Bar?
Who is John Galt?
Posted by: s9 at September 21, 2004 01:07 PM“We'll be seeing Sy Hersh speak in our town next month.
The man is a national treasure.”
I like Hersh as well. Be sure to read his book: “The Dark Side of Camelot”. If you like Hersh on Bush, then you should like him on JFK as well.
Posted by: A. Zarkov at September 21, 2004 02:12 PMCould Algeria be a model for success in Iraq?
Yesterday I was chatting with my neighbor who is an agent with the Defense Intelligence Agency. I was telling her of my experience when I was in Bangkok back in 1990. I remember reading in the English language Thai neswpaper how the last Communist insurgents were surrendering in a general amnesty. They were forgiven by the government if they came in and turned in their weapons.
Back in the 60s and 70s Thailand was also fighting a significant Communist guerilla movement with American help. The Vietnam War actually saved Thailand from the Communist plague by giving the Thai government time to defeat its own indiginous problem before the guerillas could get supplies and reinforcements from the Communist North Vietnamese.
I asked my friend "Is there a lesson we can learn from the Free World's success in Thailand?"
She answered "NO. The Thais are Budhists and the Iraqis are Muslims. Muslims just want to kill and die."
Hmm. I asked her "Well, can you tell me where an Islamist insurgency was defeated?"
And she answered "Algeria."
I then called my long time Algerian friend Kamel and asked him to tell me about how Algeria is doing now. Kamel was a Captain in the Algerian Army of Houari Boumedienne where his military specialty was "interogation." He always ducks my questions about that experience.
"Much better" he said. "Abdelazziz Bouteflika is the new president and he's a good man. His army has killed most of the Islamist insurgents with help from the French and the Americans. He forgave most of the rest with an amnesty, and there are now only a few holdouts in the mountains."
"When was the last battle?" I asked, and he responded "Just a few months ago."
These developments have given me hope that there is light at the end of the Iraqi tunnel as long as we stay the course.
Following is a BBC article about recent Algerian history
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Profile: Abdelaziz Bouteflika
Mr Bouteflika was once known as the dandy diplomat Abdelaziz Bouteflika's victory in the Algerian presidential elections is a remarkable achievement for a man who spent nearly two decades in the political wilderness. The 67-year-old veteran of Algeria's war for independence from France served as the country's foreign minister for 16 years until 1979.
His upper-class, Westernised style led him to be called "the dandy diplomat" in some quarters.
It marked him out from the other leading figures of the ruling National Liberation Front (FLN) and served him well in international circles, although his views were often contrary to Western interests.
But after the death of President Houari Boumedienne, his fortunes waned, and he went into self-imposed exile in 1981 to escape corruption charges that were later dropped.
He returned to Algeria in 1987. The following year, he signed a protest against alleged brutality by government troops towards youthful protesters, amid the first stirrings of the unrest that eventually led to a decade of violence.
Peace plan
Mr Bouteflika returned to the political stage in 1999, when he stood for the presidency with the backing of the army.
He was originally one...
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http://pep.typepad.com/public_enquiry_project/2004/09/could_algeria_b.html
This needs a new title:
The ontological argument for the shrill
Posted by: Rob Sperry at September 21, 2004 02:42 PMAmoral Lying Cynic (Kissinger) vs Delusional True-Believing lying Crazies Rummy/Condi/Wolfie
What a choice.
Posted by: llamajockey at September 21, 2004 03:14 PMLOL, my God Adrian, you're losing your mind more by the day...
Posted by: Brad Reed at September 21, 2004 03:54 PMPerhaps Adrian should go to Tangiers and investigate for himself?
Posted by: Linkmeister at September 21, 2004 05:02 PMOr perhaps he's competing for the title of "most shrill?"
Posted by: Linkmeister at September 21, 2004 05:03 PMAdrian, time to talk to your doctor about raising your medication dosage. It's clear that your current regimen is not cutting it.
Posted by: non economist at September 21, 2004 07:06 PMI'll be the first to admit I'm no expert on Algeria, but from what I've read and what I can find it's no model for the kind of success I hope for America; a decade of fighting their occupiers, 4 more decades of low grade civil war, and a "few months ago" the "last battle". Seems Adrian's advice is to hang in there til 2054. No wonder he thinks Kerry is an uppercase PACIFIST. Kerry thinks he can get the troops home by 2008.
CIA Sourcebook
Posted by: dennisS at September 21, 2004 07:10 PMFailed in my first attempt here to attach the link.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ag.html
Posted by: dennisS at September 21, 2004 07:14 PM
Being PACIFIC is bad? That must be an ATLANTICIST
talking...and where is Atlantis now?
(Since everyone was going nuts...thought I would too)
Posted by: venky at September 21, 2004 10:16 PM"Oh please. Ask the Iraqi Kurds or ask the East Timorese, or ask the Cambodians if they prefer Henry Kissinger over Paul Wolfowitz. There answer would really be shrill."
Heck, ask the South Vietnamese what they think of Henry "Let Saigon Be Bygone" Kissinger.
"Political satire became obsolete when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize." - Tom Lehrer
Posted by: Alan K. Henderson at September 21, 2004 11:18 PM"Seymour Hersh is the new Grand Heresiarch of the Order of the Shrill."
I thought the SI unit of shrillness was Shoggoths? So shouldn't that be Supreme Shoggoth of the Order of the Shrill.
(Fails SAN check)
Tekeli! Tekeli!
Posted by: Tom at September 22, 2004 10:09 AMAdrian wrote:
"JOHN F. KERRY WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO DEFEND AMERICA NO MATTER WHAT HE SAYS."
Talking of failed SAN checks...
Tekeli! Tekeli!
Posted by: Tom at September 22, 2004 10:11 AMA. Zarkov wrote, "I like Hersh as well. Be sure to read his book: 'The Dark Side of Camelot'. If you like Hersh on Bush, then you should like him on JFK as well."
Yes, that book was excellent. The chapter on JFK's womanizing shows that Clinton was a choir boy compared to JFK.
The best book I've read by Hersh is still his _The Price Side of Power: Kissinger in the Nixon Whitehouse_.
Posted by: liberal at September 22, 2004 01:31 PMI have a problem with Heresiarch Hersh. Shouldn't he be known (among The Shrill) simply as The Hershiarch? I think that "heresiarch" is Greek for "Hersh rules!"
Posted by: piotr at September 22, 2004 03:45 PM