John Edwards attacks the unfunded education mandates of the Bush administration...
Dick Cheney calls Paul Bremer a cowardly wimp crying for more troops when the generals were happy...
Posted by DeLong at October 5, 2004 07:28 PM | TrackBackWhat horsewhipping Edwards is giving to Cheney!
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Posted by: Daniel at October 5, 2004 07:34 PMBrad, better explain Cheney's blurb about Kerry's tax cuts reversal hurting hundreds of thousands of small businesses.
Posted by: MarcinGomulka at October 5, 2004 07:41 PMThe bad news for the Republicans is that after two debates the American people have seen THREE candidates who look to be more presidential than George Bush.
Posted by: Tom R - Seattle at October 5, 2004 08:05 PMWatching and listening to Cheney made me think of Dementors. Cheney seemed to just suck all the life and happiness out of the room. yiigggghhh
Posted by: bakho at October 5, 2004 08:12 PMI said it before, and I'll say it again -
I have to say, I was yelling at Edwards for most of the night - "call him on the Medicare BS - talk about how the suppression of the real cost is just another example of the misleading of this administration!!! "
But you know, the real disappointment was the moderation, or lack thereof. All debates should have electrically wired chairs/podiums that the moderator can activate when the candidate starts wandering away from the question. At the very least, she should have stopped both of them on the AIDS question when they pandered like a... well, politician. And there should be a rule that you cannot spend 90 seconds of a two minute answer criticizing the other guy. I wanna see her stand up and scream, "ANSWER THE QUESTION, BEEAATCH!!!" Of course, we all know that won't play very well in the heartland...
Posted by: Greg in WA at October 5, 2004 08:16 PMAh, but the best moment of all, the one that single-handedly probably turned 10 million people off Cheney:
"The vice president, I'm surprised to hear him talk about records. When he was one of 435 members of the United States House, he was one of 10 to vote against Head Start, one of four to vote against banning plastic weapons that can pass through metal detectors.
He voted against the Department of Education. He voted against funding for Meals on Wheels for seniors. He voted against a holiday for Martin Luther King. He voted against a resolution calling for the release of Nelson Mandela in South Africa.
It's amazing to hear him criticize either my record or John Kerry's."
Posted by: PaulO at October 5, 2004 08:26 PMCheney repeated a line I heard today in response to the Bremer claim of too few troops. Something along the line of..
We listen to our ground commanders and give them what they want.
Wait a second: first, who is in command...? and second, do they have a system of 'listening' to hear and weigh all these requests?
Posted by: Laura at October 5, 2004 08:59 PMBy the way, Cheney said "factcheck.com," not "factcheck.org." Hmmm let's see what comes up when we click on http://www.factcheck.com...
Very interesting, Gregory. Checking the whois information on those distinct domains, we find these:
[whois.domainnamesales.com]
Registrant:
Name Administration Inc. (BVI)
Box 10518 A.P.O.
Grand Cayman, Cayman Islands B.W.I.
KY
Domain name: FACTCHECK.COM
....
Registrar of Record: DomainNameSales
Record last updated on 12-Sep-2004.
Record expires on 04-Feb-2007.
Record created on 04-Feb-2004.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.15X.NET 66.199.187.170
NS2.15X.NET 66.199.187.171
Domain status:
REGISTRAR-LOCK
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[whois.publicinterestregistry.net]
Domain ID:D101518303-LROR
Domain Name:FACTCHECK.ORG
Created On:29-Sep-2003 18:02:43 UTC
Last Updated On:30-Sep-2004 01:23:48 UTC
Expiration Date:29-Sep-2005 18:02:43 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Register.com Inc. (R71-LROR)
Status:OK
Registrant ID:C36603267-RCOM
Registrant Name:Brooks Jackson
Registrant Organization:Annenberg Public Policy Center, UPenn
Registrant Street1:320 National Press Building
Registrant City:Washington
Registrant State/Province:DC
Registrant Postal Code:20045
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.2028796708
Registrant Email:bjackson@appcpenn.org
Admin ID:C36934646-RCOM
Admin Name:Brooks Jackson
Admin Organization:Annenberg Public Policy Center, UPenn
...
Admin Email:brooksj@aol.com
Tech ID:C1-RCOM
Tech Name:Domain Registrar
Tech Organization:Register.Com
Tech Street1:575 8th Avenue
Tech City:New York
Tech State/Province:NY
Tech Postal Code:10018
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.9027492701
Tech FAX:+1.9027495429
Tech Email:domain-registrar@register.com
Name Server:ASC.UPENN.EDU
Name Server:JUSTICETALKING.ASC.UPENN.EDU
(some redundancy & extraneous info trimmed, believe it or not)
So yeah, Dick Cheney wants you to check his facts with some outfit registered in the Cayman freakin' Islands, of all places, and ironically enough. Is the cognitive dissonance getting to him yet?
Posted by: John Owens at October 5, 2004 09:56 PMOh, even better! Factcheck.com redirects to a George Soros http://www.georgesoros.com/ site now. Doesn't seem to be one mocking him, either. Dick really screwed himself on that one (even if I don't care for hosting in the Cayman Islands, whether by Soros or anyone else, but there isn't a direct connection between Soros and Factcheck.com that I can turn up, so it could be someone else just deciding to make the most of Dickey's blunder).
Posted by: John Owens at October 5, 2004 10:04 PMI think factcheck.com was redirected to Soros' site at some point during the night. From reading reports elsewhere, I think it wasn't pointing anywhere much at the very moment Cheney mentioned it.
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