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On what basis do you publicly assert that this individual was lying, rather than merely mistaken?

am,
you mean that the spokesperson was lazy and/or imcompetent, by "principle of least malice"? That they unwittingly used "made-up-facts"? Perhaps you're right....

I think the easiest way to tell if an administration official is lying, rather than merely mistaken, is to see if their lips are moving.

The VICP is not some little thing that might slip under a busy policy maker's radar. No, Steve Schmidt is knowingly lying.

Because after four years the Republican Party is caught lying time after time, they have trained the rest of us to totally disbelieve anything they say. It didn't start out that way, no one wants to believe their President is lying to them day after day. But unfortunately, unlike President Bush the rest of us have been forced to see the truth for quite a while now.

Because after four years the Republican Party is caught lying time after time, they have trained the rest of us to totally disbelieve anything they say. It didn't start out that way, no one wants to believe their President is lying to them day after day. But unfortunately, unlike President Bush the rest of us have been forced to see the truth for quite a while now.

Yep.

Plus, Cap medical malpractice pain and suffering awards and you relieve HMOs, hospitals and doctor groups of the financial incentive to give non-rich patients the same quality care that they lavish on the rich.

The medical system still won't want to take money-saving chances with the bank president's care, but they'll surely consider taking chances on your care. Why? Because the threat of high awards for pain and suffering will be capped.

Cap pain and suffering awards, and non-rich people lose the ability to attract a good lawyer. And without a good lawyer the non-rich won't win in court. And their non-good lawyers won't even be able to scare the malpractice insurance Co. to offer a decent settlement up front.

Come to think of it, why is lost income any more important than pain and suffering?

I'm thinking my paralyzed sister would much rather have her right brain and left side movement back than to have the income from her old job.

By the way, she has neither. She lost in court.
Both sides brought in a raft of "experts" and the lay jurors tried to figure out the complex issue in 2 days.

Sorry. If you aren't rich in America, the deck is stacked against you, BIG TIME.

Good catch, Mark A.R. By the way, what's with the retarded spammers?

I think the above re Australia is an unfunny joke.

I live in Australia, our enormous contribution to the war (a few SAS troops early on, now 300 troops patrolling Baghdad's diplomatic quarter) was not a significant part of the election here. We also trained Baghdad's air-traffic controllers.

We've got peacekeepers in several other countries (e.g. East Timor), the "home by Christmas" line was never a significant issue.

The majority of the Australia is hoping for a Kerry-Edwards win. The rest of the world thinks America would have to be brainwashed to vote Bush in again.

Do you Americans have any idea how much your foreign reputation has been shredded?

Even among America's closest friends (UK, Australia etc.), never mind the rest of the civilized world.

They really do lie about absolutely everything, don't they?

Yes. Next topic?

D

Adam,

Yes, of course we know. But there are plenty of Americans for whom deliberately pissing off the rest of the world is a means of self-validation. IOW, it's worse here than you think.

Adam,

If a national poll were taken on the question, "The rest of the world really dislikes the United States; does that make you (a) happy, or (b) sad?", Happy would pull at least 30%.

John:

If your poll inclucded "(c) Don't care" (c) would win in a walk.

I don't believe the Flu Vaccine is covered by the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program.

http://www.hrsa.gov/osp/vicp/fact_sheet.htm

"The VICP covers all vaccines recommended by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for routine administration to children.The vaccines currently covered include: diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis (DTP, DTaP, DT, TT or Td), measles, mumps, rubella (MMR or any components), polio (OPV or IPV), hepatitis B, haemophilus influenza type b (Hib), varicella, rotavirus, and pneumococcal conjugate."

Just be glad you don't live in Israel, where the Supreme Court decides who can sell or eat pork.
http://www.opinionet.com/article.php?id=2226

For you Bush right-wing pinko-commie Homeland Defense wabba-wabba's who think the US Supreme Court belongs in our commerce, our homes and our bedrooms, remember, the door swings both ways, so don't let it hit your ass on the way out.

OT.

Just read this at a conservative blog:

http://www.redstate.org/story/2004/10/9/192654/752
By: krempasky
Posted On: Oct 9th, 2004: 19:26:54

The swift vets are NOT done, friends
I can't say a lot...but I wonder.
Mr. Kerry, do you have some rowdy friends?
Better yet, are you ready for some commercials?

Sorry, Brad and by extension Mark, they really do lie about everything, but the fact is:

Is influenza vaccine covered under the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP)?

No. Influenza vaccine is not covered under the program.

Sorry, didn't realize that tags don't work. That was a quote from this web site: http://w3.trib.com/~kombu/konnection/Flu0100.html

What disturbs me more than the lies told by that pack of murderous lying ghouls known as the "Bush administration" is the fact that they are murderous. Though at least half the US population is still duped, the "war" in Iraq will be remembered by history as one of the great acts of greed-driven slaughter and destruction. We Americans are comparable to the Germans in 1942. So calling the Bush Administration "liars" seems naive to me.

We will know if they are lying by whether they move aggressively to correct their misstatement. And that will be . . . hmmm . . . when hell freezes over?

Flu vaccines are not covered by VICP. Here is why:
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0835/is_n3_v113/ai_20787586
There is a committee which looks at these questions, and they concluded that there was no reason to add flu vaccine, because there was no evidence that litigation risk was substantial with flu vaccines, that there was concern about safety as there was with childhood vaccines, and because manufacturers did not want it. Presumably, if manufacturers thought there was significant risk, they would want it covered.

And while the clowns perform, something else more important is occurring in the shadows... better check your wallet before you leave the show... :)

Kleiman has already retracted this thanks to commenters here, why hasn't Brad followed suit?

The reduction in the number of vaccine manufacturers does seem to be at least partly due to legal risks - see http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=14301 - so the Bush spokesman's quote is correct, in that if there were more vaccine manufacturers there would presumably be a less severe vaccine shortage, though there are other reasons for the shortage as well. Medpundit (http://medpundit.blogspot.com) backs this up to some extent and gives more background on the shortage.

The thimerosal cases show that the VICP is no protection against prosecution when you can be still be sued over a component of a vaccine.

am, Rich, Barbara, Dano, Liz:

Now might be a good time to admit that the Bush administration doesn't lie about "everything," after you wipe the egg off your faces...

Now it is absolutely clear, as demonstrated here. The lefties will fabricate a lie - then echo it among themselves - without regard to FACTS. The bigger and more outrageous the LIE - the more the lefties shout it.

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