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Color me naive...but, uh, so what. It is an ugly campaign. Bush is personally throwing out more negativity then Kerry, but Kerry supporters are not much better than Bush supporters.

And it seems that throwing hyperbole to a 'private luncheon of your supporters' is legitimate.

Yeah, I've seen this posted on other sites as some sort of big deal, but I don't see why.

I agree with Rich, to a point. The Republican base loves that kind of talk and the rest of us aren't surprised any more.

As for, "Kerry supporters are not much better..."
Go Cheney yourself.

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Pudentilla modestly proposes what she has dubbed the "Bush heuristic." She has found it a useful device in the divination of meaning from otherwise nonsensical statements eminating from the Bush campaign. As a general matter, when a Republican says something about Kerry, he/she is projecting his/her anxiety about Republican conduct on to Kerry. Bush himself, we believe, suffers from a rather unusual form of the condition in which he reveals what he fears Kerry is presently doing to him when he describes what he hopes to do to Kerry.

This may indeed furter energize the base that likes the John Wayne/terminator-like attitude and swagger. And if Cheney's expletive remark in the Senate didn't shock anyone or have much of a negative impact, this certainly won't do much either.

Brad,

Idiot Boy Don Luskin, himself not an economist, claims that he is one of 368 economists endorsing President Bush. Some famimilar names are on there, like Mike Boskin, Glenn Hubbard, and Marty Feldstein, but mostly, it's the same no-namers as last time. And one of your favorite guys, Stephen Moore, signs it as an economist, even though he lacks the necessary credentials.

Some names that were not on there before were Beryl W. Sprinkel and George Schultz. They are no doubt consersatives, but do they really deem Kerry such a danger and Bush such a help to the economy?

http://www.georgewbush.com/KerryMediaCenter/Read.aspx?ID=3898

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Exactly. More generally, their projection is an effective tactic because the obvious response, "you guys do it worse," sounds childish. Satire is the only effective retort.

Also, count me among the unshocked.

I think it's significant in that it suggests that Bush is really spooked by Kerry's forceful challenge. He's like a kid trying to conceal the terror he's feeling about the after-school fight he's been challenged to by a bigger, tougher kid, because he (little Dubya) insulted the tough kid's sister.

I think it's significant in that it suggests that Bush is really spooked by Kerry's forceful challenge. He's like a kid trying to conceal the terror he's feeling about the after-school fight he's been challenged to by a bigger, tougher kid, because he (little Dubya) insulted the tough kid's sister. "Yeah, I can take him. You'll see. I ain't scared."

My decision, as to whom to vote for this coming 2 Nov., is of thirty years' standing.

Gerald Ford's pardon of Richard Nixon reduced the Republican Party to a moral cipher, and so it will remain until it is eventually abandoned and reinvented by whatever legitimate constituencies it may represent. Nixon was SEEN TO escape punishment--no, resignation doesn't count--and the lesson drawn was, predictably, that the President is above the law, indeed above all scrutiny, beyond all challenge.

Imagine how different the past thirty years would have been if Richard Nixon had done hard time.

But that might have been there, and this is here. This evening (Weds. 13 Oct.), look for Mr. Bush to treat Mr. Kerry with unconcealed (and perfectly sincere) contempt, bitterness, and rage. Look for him to express the entire indictment of "liberalism" that has formed the basis for the underground Republican propaganda: the stuff that never comes up into the light of day. It will not be logical or organized or consistent. The only pose that Mr. Kerry can possibly adopt is to simply let him rant. It will be the ugliest thing in the history of [what we laughingly call] the Republic, and it will turn out Mr. Bush's base, while reinforcing any decent person's conviction that if politics is the means, then there is no valid end. If he had done it sooner, before so many voting registration deadlines had passed, it would have been worth several million votes to him.

As British Prime Minister Henry Asquith said in 1912, "We are getting on with the new style." (Go read what he was up against.)

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Oh boy! I'm running right home for that right now. I wonder what GWB will do without the terrorism crutch.

Maybe Bush can "Smoke'em out" his hole and win the election, like in his quotes to get Osama at Tora Bora.
Mission accomplished. It's a sad day to be an American with this leadership.

(1) I don't think the quote is a big deal.
(2) The part of the quote that is interesting is "I'M GOING TO BE REAL POSITIVE." It shows that Bush's debate advisors told him to scowl less, etc. And he did that in last night's debate. Not that this is surprising or anything given how bad it made him look in e.g. debate I.

Brian -- on the new names on list of Bush supporters: In this and many other cases, I always end up believing that very, very heavy pressure is being put on people. A mix of threats and bribes.

The Bremer retraction is one example. Diulio is another. There have been many. When O'Neill decided to fight Bush, he specifically mentioned that his wealth made him safe from retaiation, and even so there was talk about prosecution.

Se. Mark Hatfield, one of the most dovish of American politicians, recently came out and supported Bush in a very unconvincing op-ed. The next day he dedicated a NIH building named after him. The next day after that he suffered a concussion in an unexplained fall.

I'm not claiming he was "hit", because he had been a good boy. I suspect that the pressure he was put under to get his op-ed involved making threats against the NIH. And that the whole episode was so stressful to him (80 y.o.) that he broke down.

Grain of salt, sure. But the Hatfield episode was very, very odd.

Brian -- on the new names on list of Bush supporters: In this and many other cases, I always end up believing that very, very heavy pressure is being put on people. A mix of threats and bribes.

The Bremer retraction is one example. Diulio is another. There have been many. When O'Neill decided to fight Bush, he specifically mentioned that his wealth made him safe from retaiation, and even so there was talk about prosecution.

Se. Mark Hatfield, one of the most dovish of American politicians, recently came out and supported Bush in a very unconvincing op-ed. The next day he dedicated a NIH building named after him. The next day after that he suffered a concussion in an unexplained fall.

I'm not claiming he was "hit", because he had been a good boy. I suspect that the pressure he was put under to get his op-ed involved making threats against the NIH. And that the whole episode was so stressful to him (80 y.o.) that he broke down.

Grain of salt, sure. But the Hatfield episode was very, very odd.

Even so, W screwed it up.
He's been real negative and had his foot in his own mouth.
Kerry just has to stand back and watch.
I thought it telling in last night's debate that it was old unlikeable Kerry who got Schieffer to laugh out loud. Bush tried all night long with his embarassing gaffes. Personally, I think Kerry sounds like like a neat guy. I'd like to know him. We'd have lots to talk about. Bush? Puhleeze.

Glad I was wrong.

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The focus shouldn't be on the "throat" quote. Suskind's article was about the frightening level of religion in Bush's policy, as well as his totally incurious nature. We should be focusing on the intense Messianic nature pervading this White House. It is dangerous, and after reading Suskind's article I found myself fearing for the future of the Republic.

Why did only one comment refer to the complete frightening article referring about the driven President? He is not God or his messenger, he is just egocentric. I am copying the article and sending it to all of my friends who may not have read it. We need a change. Much pain has been caused in the name of God. I am a Christian who does not have a direct line to God.

I read all your brainiac comments on what President Bush's meaning of stepping on kerry's spineless neck is supposed to be..Look here you pack of Mary's, Maybe "you" go into a battle or any game thinking "Play Nice'. Life is a Battle in every aspect and your mindset must be to defeat anyone you encounter. You naysayers should shut up and get fitted for dresses...SemperFi

You tell 'em JarHead.

The only thing the president has said is he prays and asks God for strength, help to make the best decisions, etc. Just like a normal Christian. He's not sitting down with a ouija board god and asking "What should I do?. " You people need to get a grip. Stop listening to all the nay sayers and dig deeper. If you "listened" to President Bush from the beginning, he has done everthing he said he would do regarding the war on terror, the war in Iraq, regarding the United States. If you don't agree with what he did, that is legitimate, but, to say he is a liar, he is an idiot, blah, blah, blah shows you are not thinking for yourself. Name calling is a last resort, what people do when they have nothing else to go on. If you listen to what Kerry says in a critcal way (meaning paying attention), he will tell you all by himself that he is a liar, that he is an opportunist, that he will say just about anything to anyone to get where he wants to go. He describes himself, as he criticizes President Bush for not moving into action immediately on 911, just sitting without words for 40 minutes not knowing what to do.

Just listened to Charlie Rose and Ron Suskind gossiping, for want of a better word, about President Bush.

I never thought I would say this, but, if Kerry were to become president, I would wish for the good old days of the Lying King, Bill Clinton, who I think has been dethroned.

You tell 'em JarHead.

The only thing the president has said is he prays and asks God for strength, help to make the best decisions, etc. Just like a normal Christian. He's not sitting down with a ouija board god and asking "What should I do?. " You people need to get a grip. Stop listening to all the nay sayers and dig deeper. If you "listened" to President Bush from the beginning, he has done everthing he said he would do regarding the war on terror, the war in Iraq, regarding the United States. If you don't agree with what he did, that is legitimate, but, to say he is a liar, he is an idiot, blah, blah, blah shows you are not thinking for yourself. Name calling is a last resort, what people do when they have nothing else to go on. If you listen to what Kerry says in a critcal way (meaning paying attention), he will tell you all by himself that he is a liar, that he is an opportunist, that he will say just about anything to anyone to get where he wants to go. He describes himself, as he criticizes President Bush for not moving into action immediately on 911, just sitting without words for 40 minutes not knowing what to do.

Just listened to Charlie Rose and Ron Suskind gossiping, for want of a better word, about President Bush.

I never thought I would say this, but, if Kerry were to become president, I would wish for the good old days of the Lying King, Bill Clinton, who I think has been dethroned.

George Bush is a dangerous man with a "GOD" complex. He is either unwilling or incapable of rational analysis.
Everything is black and white. "either your with me or against me" Even his advisors, reportedly, will not ask a questions because it seems that information gets in the way of his "gut response". He's a scary dude!
You've been watching to many Rambo and John Wayne Movies. The only thing that macho attitude shows the world is that we can be taunted into
action. In the past the US has lead the world from a position of moral as well as military strength .
Terrorists don't respond to demonstrations of military power because they are not competing militarily. They are out to control us through fear. We are feeding into that by flailing our military arms at them. We can only defeat them through intelligence, cunning and gaining the cooperation of all our allies in covert operations. They are like roaches, They will always reappear somewhere. You can't go around the world blowing up everything in sight.
You need to create a world that is unhospitable to them. That requires cooperation. Something Bush deems unimportant.

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Hey BushBasher...What did President Bush do to Bin Laden before the towers fell? call his Mommy a whore? tell him he's a fag like you? Your most likely one of those who believe that Freedom is your right because you happen to drop out of your daddy's dick in America. Be scared you Mary, I'll protect you while you waste time cowering under your bed. Running the greatest country in the world is like parenting,it isn't guided by a Handbook, and I like him, if i'm going to take the heat, i'm making the final call, but the gut system happens to work. If you believe that PanzyFrance and the rest of the corrupt world would follow us..Son, get off the crack! Reality check Buckshot, If we don't try to promote freedom around the world at any means neccessary, As John Wayne would say "Circle the Wagons Cookie" or as I would say, Pass the Ammo, their in the wire. So go get you Latte and New York Slimes paper, and while your at it...Get a Pair! SemperFi..Jarhead

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