The Whiskey Bar writes about how the New York Times can't even report its own polls straight:
Posted by DeLong at January 20, 2004 01:09 PM | TrackBackWhiskey Bar: The New Pravda, Part III: Some highlights from the lastest New York Times/CBS News poll:
- President Bush's approval rating has fallen eight points over the past month, and now stands at 50%, matching the lowest mark of his presidency for this poll.
- The percentage who view Bush favorably has dropped to 41%, the lowest since May 2001, while his unfavorable rating has risen seven points in the past month, and has hit an all-time high.
- The percentage of those polled who think the country is on the wrong track has risen 10 points, to 53% -- ending the brief era of good feelings triggered by Saddam's capture.
- Approval of Bush's handling of foreign policy has dropped to 47% -- only three points higher than its September low, and only two points higher than his foreign policy disapproval rating.
- Approval of Bush's handling of the war in Iraq has tumbled 11 points since Saddam's capture, to 48% -- also just two points higher than the percentage who disapprove (and that was before Sunday's suicide bomb spectacular.).
- A plurality (45%) say they will probably vote for the Democratic candidate, instead of Bush (43%), this November.
Given those trends, what kind of headline do you suppose the Times put on the story? "Bush Loses Bump From Saddam's Capture"? "Electorate Increasingly Polarized About Bush"?
How about: Poll Bolsters Bush on Terrorism but Finds Doubts on Economy
The economic "doubts" are certainly real enough -- despite all the media cheerleading for the jobless recovery. Bush's economic approval rating, which briefly turned positive last month -- by a bare 49-43 plurality -- has turned negative once again, 51-44. The percentage saying the economy is getting worse has risen by seven points; the share saying the economy is getting better has fallen by five.
Other than that, though, I'd call it a case of missing the forest for the trees, if not for the fact that the Times can't seem to see the trees, either. The story spends an inordinate amount of time rebutting the paper's own poll:
Other polls released last week and conducted earlier than the Times/CBS News poll found Mr. Bush's job approval rating to be higher.quoting Republican hacks on the relative merits of George Bush and his Democratic opponents:
"People wonder whether the Democrats will be as aggressive as Bush in keeping the country safe," said Bill McInturff, a Republican pollster.and, of course, bashing Howard Dean:
"Already, credibility as commander in chief has emerged as a major issue in the battle for the Democratic nomination. Many Democrats in rival campaigns have argued that Howard Dean, who has led in the polls for most of the primary season, is unlikely to pass that test on national security, because of his opposition to the war in Iraq and his lack of foreign policy experience.Granted, the media pack has become extremely inventive in its efforts to drag down Dean's candidacy. But even so, it's hard not to be impressed -- at least on a purely technical level -- by the Times' ability to shoehorn an attack on Dean into a story that's ostensibly about Bush's poll ratings. They couldn't pass up the opportunity to get in few final pre-Iowa kicks, I suppose.
But I disgress. What I found most interesting about the Times story was its failure to even try to diagnose the deterioration in Bush's numbers -- other than making a passing reference to the fading of the we-got-Saddam euphoria.
But, digging a little deeper in the poll results, however, I'm struck by how much -- and how quickly --the voters seem to have soured on Bush's pro-corporate agenda...
Why not just post links? You're costing these guys hits. You've added no value in the last five entries. Is it just that you're worried about link rot?
Posted by: bogus on January 20, 2004 01:28 PMIn fairness to the Times on the matter of ignoring/ undermining its own poll. That's one of the issues the "public editor" (the rest of us would call him an ombudsman) hit on, fairly and accurately or not, the other week. He noted that the Times wrote out its own poll while ignoring polls which disputed its findings. Perfectly good reasons for ignoring others (if you think other polls have a better methodology, you really should adopt them, etc), but a case of the ref working the players?
Posted by: tegwar on January 20, 2004 01:51 PM"Why Oh Why Can't We Have a Better Press Corps?"
Internet should be helping towards reducing media bias, I guess... for example they now get immediate reaction to a headline like: "Poll Bolsters Bush on Terrorism but Finds Doubts on Economy"
"But I disgress. What I found most interesting about the Times story was its failure to even try to diagnose the deterioration in Bush's numbers -- other than making a passing reference to the fading of the we-got-Saddam euphoria."
That's obvious - because they didn't want to call attention to the deterioration.
Posted by: Barry on January 20, 2004 02:29 PMbogus, i enjoy it that brad copies out the relevant portions - frankly, jumping back and forth between links and commentary/comments is a bit of a drag, and i suspect that many people never click through.
Barry, i must say, i used to think that when kaus and the nitwit brigade blamed howell raines for everything wrong in the times, i scoffed, but i'm starting to think that bill keller is the "they" you refer to.
Posted by: howard on January 20, 2004 05:12 PMbogus: if I may quote a Dr. J.B. DeLong -
from
http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/movable_type/2003_archives/002450.html
"In any event, thank God I have been good at quoting enough context to make much of the discussion and commentary still intelligible even with the hyperlink gone beyond repair.
But as this goes on--and it will, with individual websites popping up and dying off, with rogue programs trashing databases, and with large corporations deciding to reorganize and break every link..."
Besides, I like it too. I wouldn't have clicked through either - especially if reading at home with a dial-up ISP connection.
Dr. Delong:
Speaking of the lousy press corps, I see that Dr. Barro is talking smack about the labor force participation rate in this week's issue of Businessweek. I am sure that you could make short work of his absurd assertions and suggest that you open up a can of whoop ass on the poor fool.
In fairness, I think it would be reasonable to argue that the part rate is largely beyond the reach of the president and is, in any event, not a very good measure of economic success. I am surprised that well-intentioned Republicans do not make the argument.
In contrast, the notion that the labor market has somehow been meaningfully stronger than it has looked deserves to be revealed as the pure politics that it is. Things should soon improve, but the commentariat has a duty at least to get the history right. They need your help.
Posted by: Gerard MacDonell on January 20, 2004 07:49 PMYour "Why can't we have a better press corps" posts are going to run out of Roman numerals one of these days...
Posted by: Jim Harris on January 21, 2004 05:41 AM