February 16, 2004

Is This Supposed to Be a Joke?

Is this supposed to be a joke?

CNN.com - Bush focuses on economy in Florida - Feb. 16, 2004: TAMPA, Florida (AP) -- President Bush courted voters Monday... suggesting Democrats would endanger America's fiscal health by raising taxes.

But if it's supposed to be joke, why aren't I laughing?

Posted by DeLong at February 16, 2004 04:15 PM | TrackBack

Comments

Because you're not Jon Stewart.

Posted by: fatbear on February 16, 2004 04:34 PM

____

At the end of the day, Bush really doesn't have much else to offer voters on domestic issues besides "tax cut, tax cut, tax cut!" His policies have clearly been steering the country for catastrophe, and even some of his hard-line supporters realize this. So his only hope is to pander to short-term self interest--in a sense bribing the voters with a miniscule payout--hoping that the tidal wave of fiscal disaster that's towering over them won't be noticed.

Posted by: Derelict on February 16, 2004 04:58 PM

____

When will you stubborn, arrogant liberals realize that recent research has proven conclusively that Laffer curve actually is monotonically decreasing, and therefore massive annual tax cuts are in fact the ONLY way to fiscal health?!! [ :) ]

Posted by: Bill on February 16, 2004 04:58 PM

____

"It allowed Bush enormous exposure to the millions of NASCAR fans who have become one of this election year's most prized voter profiles."
Is this part true--'most prized voter profiles'? And does it mean that those of us that can watch (500 miles!!! of loud noisy) cars going around in circles are indicative of the mind set of America?
Please say it isn't so. This is something that CNN can say to justify the price of commercials right?
It reminds me of the other Bush (caricatured by Gary Trudeau) joy-riding in his gas-guzzling speed boat in the midst of an oil price crisis.
I thought this detail: "But just after Bush left to take the stage for a "conversation" with NuAir executives, employees and local business leaders, the line was deserted. " was telling. The workers, not caught up in any genuine excitement, had better things to do.

Posted by: calmo on February 16, 2004 05:13 PM

____

that Laffer curve actually is
I remember when I took Econ 1 at Berkeley back in the day, I had Laffer's daughter in my section. She had to hire a tutor so she wouldn't flunk. She knew that what the prof. was spouting was leftist nonsense; she just didn't quite know why.

Posted by: psm on February 16, 2004 05:13 PM

____

The statement is not a joke. Bush fiscal policy is the joke.

Meanwhile Edwards beats up Kerry over pro-NAFTA vote.

Posted by: bakho on February 16, 2004 05:14 PM

____

When will you stubborn, arrogant liberals realize that recent research has proven conclusively that Laffer curve is monotonically decreasing. Cool!!

Let's pursue this further!!

So let $\tau$ be the tax rate, and $Y(\tau)$ gdp resulting at that tax rate.
Government receipts are $\tau Y(\tau)$. Therefore for any positive value of $\tau$, by the Bush monotonicity assumption,

$\tau Y(\tau) \leq 0 Y(0) = 0$,

so for any positive value of $\tau$, $Y(\tau) \leq 0$.

No wonder Bush keeps repeating this nonsense!! He must believe a positive tax rate leads to negative GDP.

Posted by: CSTAR on February 16, 2004 05:18 PM

____

Well, if Bush does manage to get re-elected then America probably really is doomed, along with whatever other countries Bush decides to conquer. I hope that Americans will not disappoint again in Novembre.

Posted by: Joseph Lawrence on February 16, 2004 05:20 PM

____

When I was a child I lived in a glass house so I cannot throw stones. I hated it when my uncle took me to the county fair to watch the car races, but I did like the destruction derbies. On pro wrestling, I was mixed. I liked it better after I was old enough to realize it was fixed, since then it did not mess with my sense of plausible reality so much. I do agree with Mark Twain on golf, regardless of my relatives' efforts to make me like playing it.
So, whatever some posters think of people who watch NASCAR, or even worse, who might sit through a destruction derby and enjoy it, that doesn't mean we can ignore them.
A poster on the next thread put up what I think is a very dishonest piece by Feldstein saying everything will be A-OK just like Bush says. I think it is more important to answer pieces like that than make fun of those of us who might have, um, questionable taste in spectator sports.
So whether we think Bush's appearance today is joke or note, we have to make our case in way that will be understood by all voters.

Posted by: jml on February 16, 2004 05:44 PM

____

Josh Marshall notes that CNN's homepage headline for this article was:

"Bush says Democrats would threaten fiscal health."

It does seem more like a headline from The Onion. Maybe they've merged their White House coverages to save some money.

Posted by: AJ Colyer on February 16, 2004 05:56 PM

____

In psychology, they call this sort of thing projection. It is a primitive defense mechanism to control subconscious impulses you don't want to deal with.

Posted by: non economist on February 16, 2004 05:56 PM

____

Public debt when Bush took office: $5.6 Trillion
Public debt today: $7.0 Trillion

At this rate Jr. will ring up more debt than the old man.

CBO estimates 04 revenue will be under 16%
CBO estimates 04 outlays will be 20%.
Bush thinks we should decrease revenue even more?
The math is clear. Mr. Bush is fuzzy.

Posted by: bakho on February 16, 2004 06:05 PM

____

Jim Rome has it right: repeatedly turning left is not a sport.

Posted by: Alex Merz on February 16, 2004 06:40 PM

____

Bill is correct. The economy limps along on
massive deficits. Raising taxes will mean
less savings and consumption. Tax cuts are
now a narcotic; we need more and more just to
keep even. Bush has in effect changed the
metabolism of the economy. Off to my Swedish
lessons...

Posted by: Bartolo on February 16, 2004 06:41 PM

____

No, it isn't a joke. And it isn't a lie. It's a STORY.

Do you remember the "Calvin and Hobbes" strip in which Calvin demands the N-squared-plus-one'th reading of his accustomed bedtime story, despite his father's best efforts to wheedle him into listening to something--anything--else? No: "I WANT HAMSTER HUEY!"

... and so do Mr. Bush's people.

It is time to get beyond the "lie" category, the "joke" category, and even the "wtf?" category, none of which work, and adopt the story category; then focus like the proverbial laser beam on the demand for, and the consumers of, the stories.

Posted by: Frank Wilhoit on February 16, 2004 06:52 PM

____

It's time to balance the budget by abolishing all taxes. Apres moi le deluge and don't ask the gumint to hand out umbrellas to all you lazy liberals.

Posted by: Daniel on February 16, 2004 07:24 PM

____

Watching Bush speak, or try to, causes me to ask, is he the first restrictor-plate president?

Posted by: Davis X. Machina on February 16, 2004 07:36 PM

____

It's time to balance the budget by .... umm abolishing the budget!

Posted by: CSTAR on February 16, 2004 08:03 PM

____

...and start by cutting the military budget. We should consider changing our national symbol from the bald eagle to the blackhawk.

Reneging on the Treasury debt would save another $300B+ per year.

Posted by: Phil on February 16, 2004 08:48 PM

____

If it makes you feel better, my first reaction when I read the CNN.Com headline was to actually fall out of my chair laughing.

http://balta.blogspot.com

Posted by: Balta on February 16, 2004 11:00 PM

____

cstar: ...did you just use LaTeX in a blog?

Posted by: Daniel on February 17, 2004 12:48 AM

____

How does the Democratic nominee sound-bite this?
How about: "Giving big tax breaks to millionaires is not a jobs policy?"

Posted by: Bob H on February 17, 2004 06:25 AM

____

This is the same man who talked about the dollar being "strong, strong" just after it devalued by 30%.

Posted by: Harold McClure on February 17, 2004 06:27 AM

____

Daniel

cstar: ...did you just use LaTeX in a blog?

Yeah. But that was part of the shtick. The Bush Laffer-curve monotonicity Lemma.

Posted by: CSTAR on February 17, 2004 06:55 AM

____

I thought it was pretty goddamn funny until I realized that a lot of morons will actually believe what he's saying. Here's a better headline:

"President Bush warned voters in Florida that the Democrats would not uphold the sanctity of the office of president by having sex in the Oval Office."

Posted by: Brad Reed on February 17, 2004 07:08 AM

____

I would think a good strategery would be to hammer the fuzzy math line along with the actual numbers from the budget. It takes away 9/11 as an excuse, and using his own line against him is very reporter friendly (Picture Tim Russert, "You said Al Gore was using Fuzzy Math in 2000. Let's look at the current numbers").

Posted by: theCoach on February 17, 2004 07:36 AM

____

Hey Bartolo- enjoy the privatized social security while your in good ol' Sweden.

P.S. Watch out for knife wielding bums.

Posted by: Brian on February 17, 2004 08:25 AM

____

LaTeX --the cleverness of some bloggers always amazes me!

Posted by: calmo on February 17, 2004 08:34 AM

____

Laugh out looooouuuudddddd!!!!!

Posted by: bulent on February 17, 2004 10:02 AM

____

"Why *am* I not laughing?"

Ugh, economists.

Posted by: cdj on February 17, 2004 11:05 AM

____

Me economist no more than ten percent.

Posted by: Bulent on February 17, 2004 03:29 PM

____

Post a comment
















__