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Posted by DeLong at March 5, 2004 10:55 AM | TrackBack | | Other weblogs commenting on this postwashingtonpost.com – White House Briefing: ...Some indignant readers sometimes e-mail me because they think they've heard Bush make the same joke twice, and they think this is deserving of an expose. Folks, when Bush's speechwriters think they've got a good line, they don't use it twice. They use it, like, a million times. After all, he's got a lot of fund-raising to do, and a whole mess of conversations about the economy to hold. Possibly the hoariest of the current presidential chestnuts is this bada-bing sequence that Bush has used, as far as I can tell, about 40 times since late June.
"We have had no finer Vice President than Dick Cheney," Bush will say at his fund-raising lunches, dinners and receptions. There is a pause for the obligatory applause. "Mother may have a different opinion." Uproarious laughter ensues.
Over time, there have been some variations. Just the other night, for instance, in his toast at the state dinner for the nation's governors, he said: "I oftentimes say Dick Cheney is the finest Vice President our country has ever had. Mother always says, 'Wait a minute.'"
So it's no surprise that he'd eventually blow the line completely. Which he did yesterday, according to the transcript provided by the White House.
"Speaking about the Vice President, I made a really good pick when I asked Dick Cheney to serve by my side. He is a fabulous Vice President for our country. (Pause for applause.) Mother may have a second opinion."
Interestingly enough, the transcript shows there was laughter when he finished...
So, mother is trying to knock Cheney off the ticket?
Posted by: buce on March 5, 2004 11:09 AMThe joke, buce, is that when Bush '43 says we've never had a better VP than Cheney, Barb, wife of a former VP herself, might beg to differ.
Posted by: Laertes on March 5, 2004 11:14 AMChekov: It was just a little joke, sir.
Spock: A very. Little. Joke.
If telling the same joke twice was inappropriate, Milton Berle would never have had a career.
Posted by: Harold McClure on March 5, 2004 11:21 AMWhy isn't the title "What Bush 43 really thinks of
Bush 41's service as vp to 40" or somesuch?
Harold or henny youngman.
Posted by: big al on March 5, 2004 12:21 PMNo surprise that Babs Sr. admires a VP who helped orchestrate the Iran-Contra affair.
Posted by: ahem on March 5, 2004 12:49 PMTake my VP ... Please.
Posted by: Henny Youngman on March 5, 2004 01:23 PMCan someone explain this to those of us who are a idiot? "Different opinion" = OK. "Second opinion" = blew the line completely. The JoJo is clearly missing something.
Posted by: JoJo on March 5, 2004 01:39 PMIt's in the description of Cheney. Barbara Bush thinks her husband George H.W. Bush was a better vice president than Cheney--hence her "different opinion" when George W. Bush says that Cheney is the best vice president.
When George W. Bush says that Cheney is a wonderful vice president, the whole point of the joke vanishes.
Posted by: Brad DeLong on March 5, 2004 01:46 PMSo what if they still laughed when Bush blew the joke. They were laughing all the way to the bank.
Posted by: john c. halasz on March 5, 2004 02:00 PM> Interestingly enough, the transcript shows there was laughter when he finished...
I remember reading about a study that laughter has a lot more to do with social cues than with explicit humorous content. Here's what I found with Google:
Robert R. Provine
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=00027C45-AA00-1C72-9EB7809EC588F2D7
I'm sure that whatever Bush said, the audience got the cue to laugh. They may also have been aware of the original joke and were laughing at that.
JoJo: You're looking at the wrong line. The distinction is between "finest VP" (i.e., better than papa George, to which Babs might understandably object) and "fabulous VP" (i.e., excellent, to which Babs would only object if she honestly evaluated Cheney).
Of course up until the 1930s "fabulous" meant things like "fond of relating fables or legends", or "fabled, mythical"; the first of those meanings is well suited to Cheney.
Posted by: bob on March 5, 2004 02:09 PMThanks. JoJo is indeed a idiot.
Posted by: JoJo on March 5, 2004 02:45 PMJoJo: Babs would have reason to object when Cheney is referred to as the "best" VP, since her husband then gets short shrift. But why would she disagree that he's a "fabulous" VP? One wonders...
Posted by: neil on March 5, 2004 02:45 PM> Interestingly enough, the transcript shows there was laughter when he finished...
yes, but how interesting?
Again the medium conceals rather than discloses. We need a less spartan transcript. Was it nervous laughter? Was there a delay while that awkward moment passed? Or was it just a clapping machine? Maybe Paul has it right: they just clapped on cue, a Pavlovian response.
Don't feel too bad JoJo. I thought the joke was that fact everyone knew Dick Cheney was the real president.
Bush sure does say "fabulous" a lot. It seems be part of his small repertoire of ad libs.
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"The joke has been made. Laugh now." [laughter]
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