April 24, 2004

Why Oh Why Are We Ruled by These Liars? (Pictures of Coffins Edition)

From Defense Tech:

Defense Tech: "President Bush was 'moved' by recently published photos of caskets containing U.S. military personnel slain in Iraq," according to CNN, "but (he) stands by his policy barring their publication."

Bush was moved by the pictures--so moved he doesn't want anybody else to ever be moved by them again.

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If he was "moved" by them, maybe they'll turn up on one of his campaign commercials.

I mean, he's already used a shot of that 9-11 casket...

Posted by: no foolin' on April 24, 2004 11:54 PM

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A couple of MoveOn ads.

1. show bush doing his oval office thing on
where are those weapons of mass destruction.

Switch to a flag draped coffin with a voice over
of: Why don't you ask them Mr President,
they died looking for them.

2. Show Bush doing has comment that it did not matter that we found no WMD.

Show the coffins with the comment tell them it did not matter Mr. President.

Posted by: spencer on April 25, 2004 06:47 AM

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Show Bush carrying his made-for-TV turkey past the American servicemen body bags stacked up in that Baghdad hangar. Which he did, sad to say.

Posted by: Larry Ellison on April 25, 2004 11:44 AM

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You think Bush was 'moved' because he saw flag-draped coffins for the first time? Or have I missed the news that he actually attended a military funeral.

Now that he's 'moved', does Silicio get her job back?

Posted by: cc on April 25, 2004 12:39 PM

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This is a test of everyone's maturity. I was unendingly sad when I looked at those pictures, as I am when I look at the pictures of all of the US soldiers who have died in Iraq. I was proud to see the respect that their bodies were given by their comrades. It is a duty for all in the US to look at these pictures.

ANYONE who tries to use them pictures for any advantage will reap the whirlwind. The Vietnam Memorial, and the memorials all over Europe to the dead of WWI gain their power in a similar way. It is independent of whether one supports a particular war or not.

Posted by: Eli Rabett on April 25, 2004 02:00 PM

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There is a story on Space.com that the photo released by the Air Force was the astronauts that died in the space flight re-entry.
Not servicemen and women from Iraq.

Posted by: Hal on April 25, 2004 02:33 PM

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Russ Kick of memoryhole.org issued a correction
that the pics he obtained through FOIA contained the astronautss. 73 were Columbia astronauts and the rest (288) were those of the war dead.
He gave a detailed explanation for how they were mislabeled. Short version: DoD didn't tell him and he didn't know.

Posted by: bystander on April 25, 2004 05:49 PM

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Interesting item from Joanathan Alter in the new Newsweek. (Note particularly the second paragraph.)

"But 'privacy' and 'respect for the families' are fig leaves. The caskets had no names on them, so no one's privacy could possibly have been invaded. If broader national security ('America is at war') is the excuse, how long does that last? The war on terror could go on for a generation.

"It's true that many (though hardly all) families of the dead—being on the military side of the great military/media cultural divide—support the policy. But this would carry more weight if accommodating families were truly the Pentagon's aim. It isn't. For a year now, according to the Army Times, the military has put every obstacle possible in the way of family members who want to go to Dover to receive their loved ones. One family specifically asked for media coverage of a burial at Arlington. Request denied.

"The bottom line is that this government doesn't trust the people. It didn't trust them with the real reasons for going to war or the price tag. It doesn't want to fight an image war at home when the United States is already losing that fight in the Arab world. But it's patronizing to assume that Americans won't bear the cost of war if the cause is just. They are bearing that cost so far, as President Bush's healthy poll numbers amid a week of bad news attests. The same folks who, often rightly, accuse liberals of fostering a 'nanny state' that treats the public like helpless children are now doing the same. They think 'Joe Public,' as Bush calls him in Bob Woodward's new book, can't handle the truth."


Posted by: Bruce Moomaw on April 25, 2004 09:22 PM

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I notice the article doesn't say just what part or aspect of Bush was "moved." Given that he seems to think rarely, and feels little but spite, hate, and hunger, what part of him was "moved"? His hand? Foot? His intestines?

Posted by: azurite on April 25, 2004 09:53 PM

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How oh how does someone whose barely literate get tenure?

The ban was enacted 10 years ago, well before Bush.

Anyway, if you like seeing dead americans - why not pop down to your local morgue and have a good gloat, puff your chest up and feel like a brave proud patriotic democrat, a man who can look someone elses death in the face and smell political advantage.

Posted by: Giles on April 26, 2004 02:06 PM

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As Alter points out, it was enacted by Cheney personally, under Bush Senior, because he didn't think allowing returning returning coffins to be shown would do much for the popularity of the Gulf War. And as for "looking someone else's death in the face and smelling political advantage": it's the Bushites who are doing that. See Alter's second paragraph again on how they deliberately ignore the families' own wishes whenever it works AGAINST the Administration's political popularity.

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