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The Volokh Conspiracy - Archives 2004-07-01 - 2004-07-07: ...Some combination, or some complicated interaction, of terrible incompetence; an absolute prioritization of political over policy considerations; and a serious contempt for outside, contrary, disinterested, or expert opinion have made a serious mess of Iraq, trade policy, fiscal policy, and much else besides.
I dislike Kerry. I've disliked him for fifteen years; in New Hampshire we had plenty enough exposure to him to leave me sick of him a long time ago. And, man oh man would I prefer to be supporting a pro-Social Security privatization, pro-voucher, pro-tax cut incumbent president who was serious about fighting the war on terrorism and democratizing the Middle East and who might appoint Supreme Court justices who would enforce a strict reading of the Commerce Clause. Even support for the Federal Marriage Amendment wouldn't outweigh all of that, since the President doesn't play a direct role in amending the Constitution and anyway I feel sure that the FMA will never pass.
But we've had no Social Security reform, no push for vouchers, atrocious incompetence and policy made for the wrong reasons on the important foreign policy questions, protectionism, agricultural subsidies, and a spending explosion. All that's left are a) the tax cuts, which are good but something close to meaningless in the absence of spending cuts; b) a general positioning as "hawkish;" and c) annoyance at various elements of the left who I'd rather not be aligned with and certainly don't want to listen to crowing. (I really don't want Michael Moore to spend four years feeling like, and crowing that, he decided a presidential election.) Those aren't sufficient reasons to outweigh the general inability to govern competently or to make good policy judgments.
I would urge Jacob to, in the future, look not for pro-tax cut candidates but for pro-spending cut candidates. Tax cuts are not "good but something close to meaningless in the absence of spending cuts": they are counterproductive.
Posted by DeLong at July 2, 2004 05:04 PM | TrackBack | | Other weblogs commenting on this postYou might want to blockquote so it's clear what Levy is saying as opposed to your comment. Threw me for a loop with that first paragraph quoted from Levy.
Posted by: Hal on July 2, 2004 08:00 PMThat "strict reading of the Commerce Clause" is another way of saying he wants the Federal Government out of the economy.
I have borrowed a notion of Constitutional interpretation (in my case from Gary Wills; I don't know enough about the subject to know where he got it) that holds that the events of the Thirties, including the Supreme Court decisions of that era, were in fact a Constitutional amendment. It was clear at the time that one or more written amendments would pass if the expansive interpretation was not adopted. In other words, whatever the Founders thought the Commerce Clause meant, it is no longer legitimate to say it means that now.
"...that holds that the events of the Thirties, including the Supreme Court decisions of that era, were in fact a Constitutional amendment."
Oy, vey! It truly is amazing, what supremely silly ideas human beings can come up with, in their desire for rationalization!
There is an absolutely crystal-clear Constitutional amendment procedure written into the Constitution. If that procedure is not followed, only someone engaged in completely irrational "thought" could come up with the idea that a Constitutional amendment has occurred!
FDR *massively* violated The Law. (In fact, he knew he was violating The Law.) The 30's Supreme Courts and Congresses helped him. That's a fact that no amount of "Constitutional interpretation" (what a laugh!) can change.
Posted by: Mark Bahner on July 3, 2004 06:48 AM"It was clear at the time that one or more written amendments would pass..."
Criminals always have excuses for what they do. It most certainly was NOT "clear at the time that one or more written amendments would pass"...because if it was that clear, FDR and his cronies would have worked to PASS those amendments.
For example, it was clear that a Congressional declaration of war against Japan would pass after Pearl Harbor...that's why FDR asked for such a declaration.
FDR followed The Law when he knew that The Law permitted him to do exactly what he wanted. He broke The Law when he didn't think he had enough votes to do what he wanted, while still following The Law.
Posted by: Mark Bahner on July 3, 2004 06:59 AM
Brad DeLong writes, "I would urge Jacob to, in the future, look not for pro-tax cut candidates but for pro-spending cut candidates."
In other words, you're definitely urging him not to vote for John Kerry (in addition to urging him not to vote for George Bush)!
I agree with you, Brad. Jacob Levy, I assume you think of yourself as a libertarian. If you truly are a libertarian, the choice is clear: there is absolutely no doubt that Michael Badnarik (Libertarian Party) is the best candidate in the Presidential field.
Michael Badnarik is a FAR stronger "pro-spending cut" candidate than any other in the field. He is far more of a pro-Social Security privatization candidate than any other in the field. He is even better than any "pro-voucher" candidate in that he would get the federal government out of its completely unconstitutional interference with education. That would free ~$40 billion (? too lazy to look up exact numbers) for spending by individuals, towns, and states, as they saw fit.
Regarding your desire for "democratization of the Middle East," Mr. Levy: just how do you think that John Kerry--OR G.W. Bush--will accomplish that? By invading Syria and/or Iran and/or Saudi Arabia and/or Yemen and/or Jordan, etc. etc. etc.?
The choice for any true libertarian is clear:
http://www.badnarik.org
Posted by: Mark Bahner on July 3, 2004 07:18 AMBDL is being highly disingenuous when he titles this entry "Jacob Levy joins the ranks of The Shrill." When I read the Levy quote, it is sharply critical of Bush, but it is not gratuitous criticism, I can understand why he's criticizing Bush just by reading the quote itself.
Personally, I think someone joins The Shrill only when they begin to express the idea "I hate Bush" (it doesn't have to be in so many words) unaccompanied by any (worthwhile) explanation or rationale.
Alternatively, perhaps the ranks are joined at the moment the person starts believing that expressions of the idea "I hate Bush" actually have informational content....
So anyway, Jacob Levy, shrill? No.
Posted by: Joe Mealyus on July 3, 2004 09:56 AM(1) He was using "shrill" in the sense of anyone who criticizes Bush is called "shrill" even if they whisper, but that irony is lost on Faux News devotees, I suppose.
(2) The Commerce Clause. I love it when people on the right try to "out expert" people, on the one hand, in economics, and, on the other hand, in constitution interpretation.
The reason, folks, the commerce clause "doesn't mean" what it did in the eighteenth century is because *commerce* doesn't mean the same thing. We have a national, nay, global economy, where minute actions at a distance can affect the economy in large ways. This isn't about whether the farmers' market in the town square has wheat coming in from across state lines anymore.
So, if you're really so savvy about the economy, you can explain with precision how the commercial activities in one state can affect the prices and business decisions in another with ease. If you're such a whiz at Constitutional scholarship, you'd probably understand why, in this new economy, things roundly fit into that interpretation, which, btw, the Renhquist court endorsed when it distinguished the FDR era Wickard decision from Lopez and Morrison.
A "strict" interpretation of the commerce clause depending on who's speaking either means Congress should stay out of "traditional state" power areas: family law, intrastate crime etc., a la the Rehnquist court, or if you're in the real tin-foil hat wearing fed-caused-the-depression and fdr-is-a-criminal crowd, then you want to go back to the point where it meant what it meant based on the eighteenth century "commerce." (And of course, they didn't "strictly" interpret the due process clause then, either--see Lochner. They said Congress can't act, but not because they wanted the states to either. Laissez-faire ain't in the Constitution, but the Lochner court put it there!)
(3) Mr. Levy should visit http://johnkerryisadouchebagbutimvotingforhimanyway.com
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Working Americans are getting royally f&*ked.
Posted by: aaron haffen on July 3, 2004 01:32 PM"The people of Iraq now have their freedom!" George W. Bush
"Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose." Janis Joplin
Bremer in Iraq (and now that dolichocephalist Negroponti since Bremer bugged-out) was backed by $4 BILLION per month and an army of 250,000 highly trained soldiers and mercenaries, yet was unable to stabilize the Iraqi population, while those same injustices Bush used as a pretext for invasion, the torture and depravation of basic human rights and wholesale slaughter of 10,000's of innocent civilians, are being performed by the US government now as Saddam's proxy.
Of the 2,300 reconstruction projects Bush and Cheney promised to *finish* in Iraq, only 140 have been *started*. Iraqi's *still* don't have water, sewer or power in most areas. Imagine. $100BILLIONS tied up in Halliburton IDIQ's, now $BILLIONS in Iraqi oil royalties are missing.
What, do you need it spelled out in braille?
America is ruled by the Party of Kleptocrats.
Aaron Heffen: "Gary Kuccinich, Carol Mosely-Brown, Ralph Nader etc. - Fighting for working people of America all of their lives, they continue to address the dialogue instead of putsching the speil, questioning the rule of the majority by an increasingly minority elite."
"Couldn't get press coverage if their own lives depended on it."
More to the point, they couldn't get a vote from a working class person if their lives depended on it. (Some from upper middle class persons, yeah).
Posted by: Joe Mealyus on July 3, 2004 05:45 PMjonerik storm: "He was using 'shrill' in the sense of anyone who criticizes Bush is called "shrill" even if they whisper, but that irony is lost on Faux News devotees, I suppose."
Well, that's perhaps what The Shrill themselves would say is the criterion, I'm just offering an alternative criterion. I think someone joins the ranks of The Shrill not by simply criticizing Bush, but by criticism which does not tell us "here's why I think Bush sucks," but instead simply tells us "I think Bush sucks."
The phrase "but that irony is lost on Faux News devotees, I suppose," is a good example of what I'm talking about. As far as I can tell, this was not meant to refute a specific argument, but is just a gratuitous insult.
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