The Poor Man is completely dumbfounded to learn that, when Richard Cheney said he had access to information the 911 Commission had not seen, Cheney was lying. What a surprise!
Posted by DeLong at July 7, 2004 12:16 PM | TrackBack | | Other weblogs commenting on this postThe Poor Man: Surprise, Surprise: WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Sept. 11 commission, which reported no collaborative links between Iraq and al Qaeda, said on Tuesday that Vice President Dick Cheney had no more information than commission investigators to support his later assertions to the contrary.
The 10-member bipartisan panel investigating the 2001 attacks on New York and Washington said it reached its conclusion after reviewing available transcripts of Cheney's public remarks asserting long-standing links between the former Iraqi president and Osama Bin Laden's Islamist militant network.
"The 9-11 Commission believes it has access to the same information the vice president has seen regarding contacts between al Qaeda and Iraq prior to the 9-11 attacks," the commission said in a statement."
Actually, the best part of this story is that Cheney's press secretary says that this demonstrates that the commission and Cheney agree.
These people really live in a fantasy world....
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Posted by: Harold McClure on July 7, 2004 12:34 PMIs the problem really that Cheney lies, or even worse that he still believes the disinformation being fed him?
Posted by: spencer on July 7, 2004 12:46 PMThe information about Shakir *was* new to at least some of the commissioners, so it is hardly that clear-cut.
Cheney said that he "probably" had information information that the commission had not seen. There is no indication that he made this statement in bad faith.
To describe all this as "lying" is completely over the top. It devalues the very word itself. It's just more partisan silliness.
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Posted by: Chuck Nolan on July 7, 2004 01:28 PMam, for crying out loud--if Cheney had pertinent information on this topic that the Commission hadn't seen, doesn't that show that the administration wrongfully withheld information from the Commission--information that it was okay to use in public to attack the Commission's conclusions? Why would the administration sandbag the Commission in that fashion, except with an intent to obstruct or discredit its proceedings?
Didn't the president claim that the Commission had been given all the information in the administation's possession that it neeeded to perform its job. If we assume that Cheney probably made an "innocent" mistake, through being confused about what infomration the Commmission had been given, and what had been hidden from it, don't we have to conclude that the president is a liar?
Concluding that Cheney was lying is probably the more charitable of the two possible interpretations . . .
Posted by: rea on July 7, 2004 01:45 PMLook, the Commission has concluded from transcripts of Cheney's public statements that he doesn't know any stuff that they don't know, and that is that! Open and shut. If he knew any stuff that they didn't it would be right there in some transcript or another! So why are we still discussing this!
Posted by: iraqwarwrong on July 7, 2004 06:29 PM am
Recall that Cheney used "probably" when asked whether he swore at Leahy too, indicating at the very least a sub-standard use ( in need of immediate explanation from the person posing the question too I might add).
There is no question about whether he did or did not swear. Similarly, after the thorough investigation by the Commission, there is no room for "probably". It does not even meet the grade of a "smart-ass" response IMHO. The fact that he was not taken to task for this response or the earlier one indicates to me the degree to which the WH in general, but Cheney in particular, owns the press.
Today's tabloid headlines report that Alfonse D'Amato has called for Bush to dump Cheney. Apparently, D'Amato finds Cheney's ethical limitations troubling. It doesn't get much better than that.
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