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January 13, 2005

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Now Eudora's spam filter has begun classifying innocuous confirmation-of-meeting emails from people's administrators as spam...

Unless I can get this under control, I'm going to start missing meetings...

Posted by DeLong at January 13, 2005 02:21 PM

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This sounds like a feature, not a bug. Or, at least, the possibility of selectively and credibly invoking it as an excuse for missed meetings sounds like a feature, not a bug. Regardless of whether Eudora is actually doing this, Brad has just established a credible excuse for missing future meetings: "the anti-spam dog ate my memo."

Posted by: Jacob T. Levy at January 13, 2005 02:25 PM

Ah, how I love missed meetings. The bolder I am, the more I miss, the less it matters, and now I have another excuse :)

Posted by: anne at January 13, 2005 02:36 PM

Must get it...better still, give it to my boss and it may block him from sending them to me in the first place

Posted by: Lyagushka at January 13, 2005 02:40 PM

another vote for "feature" not bug!

Posted by: jdavid at January 13, 2005 02:52 PM

Is this the new version (6.2)? I just got an upgrade notice.

Posted by: Linkmeister at January 13, 2005 03:02 PM

Time to switch to Thunderbird:

Posted by: Brian Ritzel at January 13, 2005 03:46 PM

You're not using the most productive technology, Thunderbird? I suspect this is proof that there aren't efficient markets.

Posted by: jerry at January 13, 2005 04:15 PM

And this is a problem?

Posted by: Palolo lolo at January 13, 2005 04:50 PM

I can heartily recommend SpamSieve:


Works wonderfully and nary a false positive.

Posted by: Steve at January 13, 2005 06:23 PM

Brad DeLong writes:
> Unless I can get this under control, I'm going to start
> missing meetings...

I'll skip the bug/feature joke and cut to the chase. You have a gmail account, and probably the way to directly forward to that. Gmail's spam filter is shockingly, shockingly good in my experience UNLESS you have (say) students who send you stuff from their hotmail or yahoo accounts; those can get mis-classified sometimes. As a second alternative, I know you have a Mac, so you can use the most recent version of Mail. I'm not the biggest fan of Mail, but it also has better spam-filtering I think. (Or, to put it another way, once you reject a spam designation for a specific sender, I think it sticks pretty well.)

But good luck in your quest for the perfect filter.

Posted by: Jonathan King at January 13, 2005 06:34 PM

"I'm not the biggest fan of Mail, but it also has better spam-filtering I think."

I use Mail, and really need to switch to something else. Mail's spam filtering stinks.

Posted by: Jonathan Goldberg at January 13, 2005 07:35 PM

Switch to Apple Mail. As far as I am concerned it is the best mail handler I have used. I don't know about Eudora, but most junk filters "learn". When you first start using them you have to scan the junk folder and relabel the messages that are "not junk".

Posted by: bakho at January 13, 2005 07:36 PM

I also highly recommend Mail.app in its current version, along with JunkMatcher. The latter is a pattern matching filter that interacts with Mail.app. You can use the bundled patterns, or create your own. I still quickly scan my junk mail folder for mistakes, but rarely find them. You can configure scripts for Mail as well, to refine its spam filter. Together these two applications have left me 99.999% spam free. Besides, Qualcomm is on Air America's list of leading Iraq War Profiteers. Another good reason to dump the once venerable and independent Eudora.

Posted by: William E. Elston at January 13, 2005 08:02 PM

Jonathan Goldberg writes:
> I use Mail, and really need to switch to
> something else. Mail's spam filtering stinks.

OK, so others have contradicted you, and I'd like to know why. What version of Mail.app are we talking about here? My only experience is with the version that comes with Panther. Previous versions I found not so great.

The blog owner should not be satisfied with dissention in the ranks. :-)

Posted by: Jonathan.W.King at January 13, 2005 08:42 PM

I run Eudora on two machines. Mail from one particular sender is always put into the junk folder on one machine, but not on the other. Why this happens is a mystery, and is very annoying. I’m really starting to hate Eudora.

Posted by: A. Zarkov at January 13, 2005 10:32 PM

I currently use MAIL 1.3.9 (v619) 2003 Apple Computer

During the learning phase you can have it query you about the junk. "Mail thinks this is junk" You can agree or disagree, and mail refines its recognition program. After a couple of weeks it is error free. I still occasionally get new types of junk that are not recognized. However, by marking them as junk instead of just deleting them, I only ever see them once.

I maybe get 2 or 3 unrecognized junk messages per week. The rest of the junk is in its own junk folder and the message list can be quickly scanned by title. It deletes with one click.

Posted by: bakho at January 14, 2005 05:04 AM

Thunderbird, good. Eudora, bad. Peagsus, badder.

Posted by: DDonkey at January 14, 2005 09:28 AM

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