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February 04, 2005

Iraqi Election results

The religious Shia do well:

The Washington Monthly: EARLY ELECTION RESULTS FROM IRAQ....The New York Times reports that early returns in the Iraq vote show that the UIA, the Shiite slate dominated by religious groups, has won 72% of the vote so far, compared to 18% for Prime Minister Ayad Allawi's more secular Shiite coalition.

These results aren't meaningful on a broad basis because they come from strongly Shiite precincts. When the full vote is counted the Kurds will have a larger share than they do now, and possibly the Sunnis as well. Still, the religious slate so far has won 80% of the Shiite vote. If that holds, and if Shiites win 70% of the overall vote, it means that the UIA will win about 56% of the total vote. If the Kurdish slate wins 23% of the vote (as I estimated here), a UIA/Kurd alliance would have a comfortable two-thirds majority all by itself and have no need for any further coalition....

Posted by DeLong at February 4, 2005 01:16 PM

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Comments

Go back to your basic question about Bush, has he ever failed to screw up anything he touched?

I originally believed that our invasion would lead to Iraq and Iran allied and a great threat to Saudi Arabia and US oil supplies.

Still have seen no reason to change that expectation.

Posted by: spencer at February 4, 2005 01:41 PM


What US oil supplies? We are broke. We can't afford to buy the oil we are burning now!

Posted by: walter willis at February 4, 2005 02:06 PM


spencer, i've said all along that the winner in iraq was iran, and the article the prof posts helps (as you suggest) reinforce that expectation....

Posted by: howard at February 4, 2005 03:03 PM


"These results aren't meaningful on a broad basis ..."

In fact we don't know anything real about turnout or results yet. Brad, you could be a bit more skeptical, given that reliable information about anything in Iraq is a scarce commodity, and usually comes out months and months late.

Posted by: sm at February 4, 2005 04:01 PM


Yep, the Shiites (or, more precisely, Sistani and his fellow clerics) seem to have won a great victory. Unfortunately, they have just announced that they intend to respond to it by imposing Sharia on all Iraq: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/06/international/middleeast/06shiites.html?hp&ex=1107752400&en=9d100332d7bb408b&ei=5094&partner=homepage . In short, we have just seen a classic triumph of Illiberal Democracy. Still, look on the bright side. Maybe the Shiites and the Sunnis can find common purpose after all in oppressing the Kurds.

Posted by: Bruce Moomaw at February 5, 2005 09:22 PM


"Maybe the Shiites and the Sunnis can find common purpose after all in oppressing the Kurds."

Them and what army?

Posted by: J Thomas at February 6, 2005 07:29 AM


"UIA/Kurd alliance would have a comfortable two-thirds majority all by itself and have no need for any further coalition.... "

Not so.

The interim constitution provides that the proposed permanent constitution can be vetoed by any three provinces in each of which a majority votes against it. This provision was insisted on by the US in order to give Kurds, who form a majority in three provinces, the power of veto.

However, while it did not occur to people at the time, the Sunnis also form a majority in three provinces, so they too have potential veto power and a UIA/Kurd alliance can do nothing about this. The Sunnis need to be part of the process.

Posted by: coriaria at February 6, 2005 03:25 PM


That's a year away. A lot will happen in a year.

We don't know who will be voting next year. We don't know who will be living in which province next year. We don't even know who will be alive next year.

Posted by: J Thomas at February 6, 2005 04:05 PM


guns

Posted by: h at February 8, 2005 03:41 AM


I hope our troops get home before the Iraq's find out that Noah Feldman,a Jewish American university professor, is the chef architect of there future constitution. Kind of like Geronimo having Gen Custer as his defense attorney

Posted by: Mike Wathen at February 11, 2005 05:18 PM


Elections in Iraq are better than no elections but the fact that there were restrictions on age (candidates below 30 were not eligible), sex (every third candidate had to be a woman) and political affiliation (senior members of the old Baathist party could not stand) does not really make these elections truly democratic!
Moreover, if what you end up with is rule of the shariah( what Ali Sistani has now promised) then the whole purpose of the US going into iraq, will be defeated.

Posted by: Nasir Ali Khan at February 11, 2005 08:02 PM


What we should all keep in mind is, these elections are just to see who gets into the Parliment, and in No way does this mean anything, other than its on paper.

Remember ww1 after the nations that had been defeated and occupied held elections. what came out of it is in the history books. even in Africa today and Southeastern Asia.
Iranian intervention seems likely since the Shiites are closely tied with Iran's Shiites. Lets hope this doesnt go awry. And lets hope No confrontations come out of this.

Posted by: Artimus at February 14, 2005 11:49 AM


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