October 18, 2002
Family Values

The Daily Kos: Political analysis and other daily rants on the state of the nation notes that " ...not only did Jeb blow off Noelle's court date, but so did her mother.

What is it with these people? Where do they come from? What world do they live in?

I mean, I know there's something badly wrong when the scion of Connecticut and Maine yankees takes as his first name that of a Confederate cavalry general. But even so, one of the first and most important duties of a parent is to show up for one's children's criminal court appearances.

Posted by DeLong at October 18, 2002 09:51 AM | Trackback

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"But even so, one of the first and most important duties of a parent is to show up for one's children's criminal court appearances. "

Um, hopefully not your kids personally, but yeah. Why didn't Mrs. Jeb show up?

Posted by: Paul on October 18, 2002 02:34 PM

Check out also:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/columnists/orl-locmiket18101802oct18,0,3403429.column?coll=orl-news-headlines

Posted by: kos on October 18, 2002 02:50 PM

far be it of me to defend Jeb Bush. . .but from Noelle's point of view, you want as few people there as possible. This ain't graduation. I doubt very much that she wanted her parents there, along with the ensuing media storm

What boggles the mind is that Jeb Bush cut funding for drug treatment by 85% in order to cut Florida's wealth tax from 2/10 of 1% to 1/10 of 1%. As Gene Lyons said in another context, you wonder how some of these people manage to shave themselves in the morning.

Posted by: roublen vesseau on October 18, 2002 08:47 PM

Republicans are soft on crime when it's theirs.

Brad: These ARE the Bush Family Values: Getting away with it. Just like George W. and Neil, Noelle has committed a major crime (posessing drugs _while in rehab again_) and is getting a slap on the wrist.

I hope Noelle gets treatment for her problem, preferably outside the glare of her family's political ambition. I hope she has learned her lesson. Frankly, I doubt both of these.

Posted by: Dave Romm on October 19, 2002 08:19 AM

I realize that many people in this forum despise all things Republican generally, and all things Bush specifically, but to pretend to have any insight as to what would be the best way for a parent to interact with a dysfunctional adult child, without very specific knowledge of the individuals' previous interaction and behavior, is simple ignorance borne of hatred. I really don't care much for a lot of the Bush family's or GOP politics, but that doesn't make me a good judge as to what would be the best way for Noelle Bush to be treated by her parents. As for cutting funding for treatement programs, given the performance record of such programs, one can make a reasonably sound argument that they don't accomplish much.

Posted by: Will Allen on October 19, 2002 08:41 AM

'As for cutting funding for treatement programs, given the performance record of such programs, one can make a reasonably sound argument that they don't accomplish much.'

Uh, say what? Literally every study I've seen shows a drop in recidivism that makes treatment cost-effective strictly on that basis.

Posted by: Jason McCullough on October 21, 2002 11:19 AM

Literally every study I've seen shows that people who try to stop intoxicating themselves without assistance of treatment programs have pretty much the same rate of success as those who access such programs; both groups have very high rates of failure.

Posted by: Will Allen on October 21, 2002 11:58 AM

Ah, that's the difference. The proper comparision isn't to "people who want to quit anyway," as a large component of those arrested/imprisoned don't want to quit. Drug treatment for offenders results in a lower recividism rate, thereby saving money above the cost of the drug treatment.

Posted by: Jason McCullough on October 22, 2002 01:41 PM
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