October 21, 2002
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NATIONAL JOURNAL TECH DAILY -- October 16, 2002: Business: Google CEO, Economist Debate Maturing of Industry

by Drew Clark

PHOENIX -- The CEO of Google said Monday that the technology sector is becoming more mature and is slowing down, but a noted economist countered that because productivity growth remains robust, information technology has a bright future ahead.

In a debate at the Agenda 2003 conference here about whether "the best is yet to come," Google CEO Eric Schmidt said: "Nothing can outperform the economy in the long run because it becomes the economy. The growth rates that we are addicted to are unusual by historical standards."

But J. Bradford DeLong, a University of California at Berkeley economist who served as deputy assistant secretary for economic policy in the Clinton administration, said continuing productivity growth in the midst of the recent recession just demonstrates that "maturity has to be put off for another business cycle."

Schmidt took the pessimistic side of the debate but said he spoke for himself and not for Google, the company behind the Google.com search engine that most agree has strong prospects. "We are all technology optimists," he said. The question "is not whether infotech is indispensable ... but whether it is a great business."

Just as the invention of the railroad prompted wild speculative bubbles in railroad stocks in the late 19th century, he said, the Internet prompted unrealistic expectations about revenue growth.

"The assertion is not that technology is not working; it is that it is maturing" by becoming a more tradition-bound and slower-growing business, Schmidt said, adding that tech executives should acclimate themselves to that environment because "being a utility is better than being beat by a competitor."

He also said the raging debate about copyright and patent protection in the digital age would have a key impact on "what kind of long-term profits our industry can build."

If there is no intellectual property protection whatsoever," he said, "entertainment and pharmaceutical industries can't be built. And if there is too much, it shuts off a whole bunch of the creative" process at work in the technology sector.

DeLong reacted to Schmidt's railroad analogy with some historical counter examples. Railroad businesses suffered when their stock bubble burst, he said, but the overbuilding of tracks in turn laid the way for new businesses.

Widespread railroad transportation fostered the development of department stores like Sears, Roebuck and Montgomery Ward, he said, and Chicago meatpackers also were able to undercut higher-priced local butchers on the East Coast because of railroads.

DeLong said the continued vibrancy of Moore's Law -- the principle that computer processing power doubles every 18 months -- strengthens his optimism about the technology business. "I urge you not to confuse a bear market and a crash with a fundamental technological transition," he said.

But he agreed that intellectual property issues pose a wild card. If Schmidt's "gloomy prediction of maturity comes true, it will be in the way the government sets the [intellectual property] rules of the game," DeLong said. He added that stiff copyright laws would "strangle what could be good opportunity" for new technologies.

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"But he agreed that intellectual property issues pose a wild card. If Schmidt's "gloomy prediction of maturity comes true, it will be in the way the government sets the [intellectual property] rules of the game," DeLong said. He added that stiff copyright laws would "strangle what could be good opportunity" for new technologies."

Worth repeating. The DMCA closed off entire new industries. Further idiocy will strangle the child before he reaches his stunted adolesence. And some other country will pick up the baton.

Posted by: Ian Welsh on October 21, 2002 10:49 PM

Mixed metaphor alert in that last post. ;)

Posted by: Ian Welsh on October 21, 2002 11:07 PM

>>Nothing can outperform the economy in the long run because it becomes the economy<<

>>maturity has to be put off for another business cycle<<

Maybe it's a fifty-fifty split here. Google has it by stating the theory of efficient markets, in the long run there's no extra productivity growth to be sustained from a one-off technology revolution- hey, maybe we should call this 'the veil of productivity'. In other words what we get is a level effect not a rate effect.

But, on the other hand, this is not reaching maturity any time soon, perhaps because the idea of 'maturity' is a biological metaphor from an earlier time. The agricultural revolution happened 10,000 years ago, the industrial one two hundred, and the internet came on-line 10 years ago (approx). That is things are accelerating, maybe on a logarithmic scale. So on-and-on it will go, and faster-and-faster.

Then perhaps neither of them have it, since two important question emerge. Can WE live with this. And if we can, can the enterprise as we know it. After all the gale of creative destruction appears to have been a small fart in comparison with what we are looking at up front.

Posted by: Edward Hugh on October 22, 2002 04:34 AM

And to think the Economist magazine deprecated patents in the 19th century even as European industries grew just fine without them.........Forward to the past! :-)

Posted by: Ian on October 22, 2002 05:41 PM
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