October 22, 2002
Joshua Micah Marshall Is Overcome with Laughter

Apparently, President Bush has come up with a genuinely new spin on what American policy toward Iraq is. The policy of the United States remains "regime change." But if the Iraqi regime changes its policies, that counts as a change of regime, somehow. How? you ask. Don't ask...


Talking Points Memo: by Joshua Micah Marshall: ...this quote from the President...[:]

If [Saddam] were to meet all the conditions of the United Nations, the conditions that I've described very clearly in terms that everybody can understand, that in itself will signal the regime has changed ...

...I couldn't help laughing. And perhaps that says something about my not getting out quite often enough that I would find this so amusing. But, honestly, this is about thirty-times more audacious a massaging of the English language than that little number the former president pulled about what the meaning of 'is' is. If the regime will just change then you don't have to change the regime. And if the regime changes isn't that regime change? So what's the problem?

I've rolled this one over in my head a few times and as nearly as I can figure the key is that the president prized apart the words in that wonderful phrase and took 'regime' which was supposed to be the object of the verb 'change,' as in 'change the regime' and made it the subject, as in 'the regime changes.' That is to say, the 'regime' was mean and now it's nice. I grant you, this grammar and syntax chopping may not do full justice to the utter discombobulation of this phrase. You can just see the chief regime-changers hearing this and breaking out with the frantic 'wait, wait, waits...'

In any case, approaching the matter at that level may miss the point. Could anybody but this president have managed to get away with uttering such a quote? What we're seeing here is a grey glimmer of that undiscovered country where verbal goofballism meets the honed edge of grand strategy. Sort of Gomer Pyle meets Forrest Gump meets Klemens von Metternich. Now, I'm not sure the underlying change of policy here is wrong-headed, at least as far as it goes, or even that it represents a change. But how much must those report writers at Heritage and AEI be pulling out their hair out over this. (And a lot of them don't have a lot to spare. So it's serious.) I mean, if only the phrase 'regime change' had come with an instruction manual or a rulebook perhaps this chicanery would never have been possible...

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Clearly, this is what the administration was after all along. No back-pedalling, or changing goals, or anything other than unfettered success here...

Posted by: Dennis O'Dea on October 22, 2002 12:56 PM

but Saddam is an evil man
but Saddam can't be trusted
but the failure of Clinton and the U.N. (and poppy bush, not that they actually name him) is that they trusted Saddam. They brokered a deal. Diplomacy= Appeasement.
Did I imagine the last 2+ months? Or were these things not said by this same man?

Posted by: on October 22, 2002 06:04 PM

You would rather have war? If the threat of war has moved us away from war then the President has done a magnificent job worthy of the Nobel peace prize if that award hadn't been so degraded.

Posted by: Lee on October 22, 2002 08:04 PM

You do not have to believe me, but I saw it coming... The wording "regime change" is much less defined than "Saddam's ousting"...

Posted by: Jack in the Box on October 22, 2002 09:00 PM

Joshua Micah Marshall is simply making a fool of himself. He is something of a neo-Liberal. What is a neo-Liberal? It is someone who senses that the Left is wrong on many issues, but is terrified of no longer being invited to the Liberal white wine and brie cheese get-togethers.

The Bush administration has been fairly consistent on the need for a regime change in Iraq. It is silly to pretend that Saddam Hussein will actually allow a thorough inspection. Thus, we will be compelled to oust him from power.

Let's be honest: the Left hates George Bush more than Saddam! A Third world tyrant is perceived to be less dangerous than the leader of the United States. Those on the Left embrace a skewed vision of the world.

Posted by: David Thomson on October 23, 2002 04:32 AM

>>the Left hates George Bush more than Saddam! A Third world tyrant is perceived to be less dangerous than the leader of the United States. <<

These two sentences do not imply each other and only the second is true.

Posted by: Daniel Davies on October 23, 2002 07:47 AM

I don't think analysis of Bush's motives can mitigate the point Marshall is making. Suppose Bush is simply posturing at the moment for pragmatic reasons, with no real intentions of stopping short of genuine regime change in Iraq. Surely he could find a more graceful way to do it than to make a mockery of his own chosen mantra. Or suppose instead that Bush's statements reflect a genuine (if perhaps temporary) shift in policy: surely there is a more graceful way to do it than to make a mockery of his own chosen mantra (such as admitting that you've changed your mind). No matter how you slice it, this comes across amusing to the left and awkward to the aware right.

By the way, my personal read is that Bush's statement is a real attempt to backpedal - that's the harder situation to sell (particularly for this unapologetic administration) and so it's more plausible that this situation led to such an awkward statement.

Posted by: Ben Vollmayr-Lee on October 23, 2002 07:56 AM

I still don't perceive any contradiction in the Bush administration's attitude toward Saddam Hussein. The only thing I see is a nitpicky attempt to make something out of nothing. The tyrant of Baghdad is simply not going to allow a thorough inspection. Thus, we will have to take the next step. A regime change is the likely outcome. Why is that so hard for some people to comprehend?

Posted by: David Thomson on October 24, 2002 03:22 PM

It's a huge contradiction. the policty used to be were are gion gto forcibly remove this man from power, and now it's we are going let him stay. Two totally different policies.

Posted by: Dennis O'Dea on October 24, 2002 09:52 PM

"It's a huge contradiction. the policty used to be were are gion gto forcibly remove this man from power, and now it's we are going let him stay. Two totally different policies."

No, it is not. The price for Saddam to remain in power is perceived by him as too expensive. He will never permit a thorough inspection of Iraq. Thus, we will be forced to "remove this man from power." What is so hard to comprehend? Has your hatred of George W. Bush hindered your ability to think and follow a logical argument?

Posted by: David Thomson on October 25, 2002 01:26 PM
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