Kevin Drum stands four-square--no, it's stronger than that, he stands five-pentagon or six-hexagon--for modern academic "political correctness." And the Houston Chronicle appears to stand eight-octagon for one's freedom to not just be a bigot but to put one's beliefs into practice even if they violate the explicit policies of the organization that is paying you...
Posted by DeLong at November 30, 2002 11:02 AM | TrackbackCalPundit: THOSE DARN LEFTIES....RUINING OUR FUN AGAIN....Charles Kuffner has a good piece about Ken Hatfield, the football coach at Rice who got in trouble for saying that he might remove an openly gay player from his team. Hatfield's statement is certainly disgraceful on a moral basis, but, as Charles points out, it also violates his employer's official nondiscrimination policies, so Hatfield deserved all the trouble he got. But not everyone agrees. According to an op-ed in the Houston Chronicle:
Welcome to the world of collegiate political correctness: It lurks even in the masculine precincts of Rice Stadium. With this as background, it is easier to understand the travails of Rice football coach Ken Hatfield. A devout Christian, Hatfield has a negative view of homosexuality and is quoted as saying he might consider removing a player from the Rice squad who admitted to being gay. Mind you, such action is pretty much de rigueur in today's American military; but it is definitely forbidden in the politically correct world of our universities....
Those at Rice who don't adhere to the leftist party line, so dominant in American higher education, are targeted for abusive public pillory. In the China of Mao Zedong the target was intellectuals, former landowners and merchants and their descendants. On Rice's campus those singled out for public opprobrium, it seems, are conservatives, and Christian conservatives in particular, at least those with the courage to speak their minds in the public square.
So is this what conservatives are talking about when they talk about the "runaway" PC mentality on university campuses? That you'll get vilified for being an open homophobe — even in the masculine precincts of Rice Stadium! — and your boss will discipline you for violating university policy? Geez, things really are getting out of hand in academia, aren't they?
Ken Hatfield is not a victim of political correctness. He violated the stated policies of Rice University and deserves punishment. Every organization has a right to impose its chosen values on its members. For instance, is the NAACP obligated to allow membership to someone who hates black people? Censorship is inherently unavoidable. The only legitimate debate for a viable democratic society is where do we draw the line.
Posted by: David Thomson on November 30, 2002 11:14 AMyeh. Seems like a clear issue of employment law to me. A contract is a contract - this is about doing one's job properly. PC is a "speech" issue, and this is about selecting people to play only on the basis of sporting criteria. Rice University and its sports teams are not the US military, and there is no legitimate comparison between them. I loathe political correctness [PC] and its imposition, but it weakens the case against PC to use it to attack equal protection (which you might not like either, but which is different).
Posted by: charlie b. on November 30, 2002 07:58 PMDavid Thompson writes, "He violated the stated policies of Rice University and deserves punishment."
I assume Mr. Thompson is basing his evaluation of the situation completely on the words from the article, which say:
"Hatfield's statement is certainly disgraceful on a moral basis, but, as Charles points out, it also violates his employer's official nondiscrimination policies, so Hatfield deserved all the trouble he got."
But to know whether this is truly the case (that the coach "violated his employer's nondiscrimination policies") would require knowing what those specific "non-descrimination" policies are.
I would be quite surprised to learn that those "non-descrimation" policies restricted speech...especially speech that speculates about future actions. I could certainly understand if the "non-descrimination" policies actually fobade those actions.
Since the coach appears to have only "said" he would consider removing "an" (sic! it doesn't say "the") openly gay player, I would be surprised if that violated his contract.
For example, if a faculty member said that he would consider having a sexual relationship with a student...even if the actual ACTION violates his contract...I would be very surprised if the speech violated the contract. For example, suppose a faculty member was interviewed for the the university newspaper, and said (foolishly...without checking with a lawyer first! ;-)), "Yes, being a bachelor, I could see having an affair with a graduate student." I'd be very surprised if that statement was a violation of the faculty member's contract...whereas I certainly wouldn't be surprised of the actual action of having the affair was a contract violation.
Similarly, if a head basketball coach said, "I may cut all my white players; white men just can't jump"...I doubt that would typically be a violation of the coach's contract. Whereas actually cutting all of the white players after making such a statement--especially if some of the white players actually COULD jump ;-)--would probably be a violation.
The point is a coach/faculty member speculating on his/her future actions probably wouldn't be in most employment contracts. The actual actions would be...but the speculation about doing such actions probably wouldn't. (Of course, contracts vary.)
Posted by: Mark Bahner on December 1, 2002 01:57 PM"But to know whether this is truly the case (that the coach "violated his employer's nondiscrimination policies") would require knowing what those specific "non-descrimination" policies are."
Rice University is only a short drive from my front door. I'm sure that the school has strong anti-discrimination policies concerning gays. You do, though, have a vlid point. Is Hatfield indulging in wild speculation--or would he truly discriminate against gay football players? In this particular case, the school has a right to ask him for further clarification. Does that sound fair enough?
PS: A few years ago the Rice student newspaper even permitted me the opportunity to state my qualified defense of affirmative action. Here is the link:
http://www.rice.edu/projects/thresher/issues/83/960412/Opinion/Story3.html
Posted by: David Thomson on December 1, 2002 04:23 PMThere's a technical term for a statement of intent to damage someone under stated circumstances, even if the person to be damaged is not identified. It's called a "threat." If the coach said what he's reported to have said, he was threatening to dismiss any player who came out as gay. Pewrhaps Rice's policies allow coaches to threaten players in this way. But I doubt it.
Brad, a nitpick. The piece in the Houston Chronicle was an op-ed, so it may not be fair to evaluate the Chron's views based on this. (Don't know if the Chron editorialized on it.)
Dittoes to Mark K, while I'm posting.
Posted by: Matt Weiner on December 2, 2002 04:26 AMInteresting to see the Prof getting back to fundamentals, although the evangelical turn is a bit unexpected.
Posted by: Tom Maguire on December 3, 2002 04:21 PM