I must say that I had always thought that by the time I reached 40 I would have heard about or thought of every possible kind of sin. But the Catholic Archdiocese of Boston has proved me wrong. I had never thought of:
I am dumbfounded. This is betrayal of a high order: Dante's Inferno Tenth-Circle buried-in-ice-for eternity order. Moreover, this is something that I would never have thought of doing in ten-thousand years.
Barbara Thorp, the Archdiocese of Boston's Director of Victim Outreach Programs, is not dumbfounded. She is surprised, dismayed, and angered at how the Archbishops of Boston are using her and her programs.
Church lawyers to question therapists
By Michael Rezendes and Walter V. Robinson, Globe Staff, 1/17/2003
hree months after the Archdiocese of Boston publicly reached out to sexual abuse victims and promised to pay for their counseling, church lawyers this week began requiring therapists who have been treating the alleged victims to answer questions under oath about their patients' emotional condition.
That step, though it is standard practice for trial lawyers, provoked outrage yesterday from advocates for sexual abuse victims and the attorneys who have asked for jury trials for two of the more than 500 people who allege they were abused by priests in the archdiocese.
''This is the ultimate bait-and-switch strategy,'' said David Clohessy, national director of the Survivors Network of Those Abused by Priests. ''It's terribly disingenuous and hurtful to say to victims, `Come see us and we'll give you help,' and then turn around and use their private therapy sessions against them. It is every survivor's worst fear.''
The first of the pretrial depositions of the therapists, taken on Tuesday, appeared to catch some archdiocesan officials by surprise. Barbara Thorp, the official in charge of the church's victim outreach program, has expressed anger that the therapists are being questioned and forced to turn over notes of their counseling sessions, according to an adviser to the archdiocese.
Last night, Donna M. Morrissey, the archdiocesan spokeswoman, said the archdiocese wants to settle all the cases without ''painful'' litigation. But she said that because the law firm Greenberg Traurig has decided to take cases to trial, ''Then we are clearly obligated to defend ourselves.''
Morrissey said she did not know whether Bishop Richard G. Lennon, who took charge of the archdiocese when Cardinal Bernard F. Law resigned last month, was aware of the decision to issue subpoenas to the therapists, whose bills are being paid by the church.
Within a week of Law's departure, Lennon said he wanted to quickly settle the sexual abuse claims. Lawyers for the victims hailed the ''new tone.'' But the dispute that erupted yesterday is just one sign that the tone has soured.
An effort to win agreement for a moratorium on legal action, so there can be settlement talks, has failed. And with Greenberg Traurig seeking trial dates, the archdiocese is hiring seasoned litigators to fight back.
Today, a lawyer hired by the Boston Archdiocese from Colorado will argue in Suffolk Superior Court that all of the sexual abuse claims should be dismissed because of the church's First Amendment protections.
The first deposition of a therapist was taken Tuesday by Timothy P. O'Neill, an attorney for Brooklyn Bishop Thomas V. Daily, a former aide to Law who is named as a defendant in the lawsuit for his supervisory role. The therapist has been counseling Anthony Driscoll, an alleged victim of the Rev. Paul R. Shanley.
In cases where plaintiffs are claiming emotional damage, it is standard practice for defense attorneys to depose treating therapists and to ask for their records, legal specialists said.
But because the archdiocese has repeatedly said that its chief concern in attempting to manage the clergy abuse crisis is the welfare of victims, their advocates said Lennon has a moral obligation to protect the confidentiality of the therapy.
''It may be standard legal practice, but Bishop Lennon has to ask the question, `What's the best pastoral thing he can do to help the Archdiocese of Boston?''' said James E. Post, president of Voice of the Faithful, the lay group that formed last year in response to the crisis.
Roderick MacLeish Jr., an attorney representing Driscoll, said church attorney Wilson D. Rogers III told him last month that church attorneys would refrain from deposing therapists and issuing subpoenas for their treatment records.
MacLeish said Rogers made the statement after MacLeish agreed to postpone Law's continuing deposition.
In a letter to Rogers's father and law partner, Wilson Rogers Jr., dated yesterday, MacLeish said, ''The issue is not whether you have a legal right to take such depositions of treating social workers. The issue is whether the Archdiocese of Boston can tout its healing program for victims while at the same time take deposition(s) of their current therapists.''
But O'Neill, who deposed therapist Jeannine Breton, said he was never told of such an agreement, and insisted that it is his obligation to take pretrial testimony from treating therapists.
''It would be malpractice not to depose his licensed social worker,'' O'Neill said. ''Anthony Driscoll has put his psychological status at issue. He is claiming that all of his problems are related to childhood sexual abuse at the hands of Shanley. I have an obligation to test the credibility and details of the claims.''
Michael Avery, a Suffolk University law professor and the author of a widely used manual on rules of evidence, said plaintiffs who allege emotional damage are routinely required to disclose the contents of their discussions with therapists.
''Once you make your emotional condition an issue you waive any privileges you might have had,'' Avery said, adding that the evidence from therapists, although available to defendants and their attorneys, would be kept from the public until trial.
Avery also said that in cases where continuing emotional harm is the alleged result of trauma suffered long ago, judges are likely to allow defense attorneys wide latitude when questioning therapists in order to determine whether unrelated abuse may have contributed to a victim's problems.
Wendy Murphy, a former prosecutor who represents sexual abuse victims, said the right of defense attorneys to depose therapists and examine their records in such cases has been misused by some defense attorneys as a strategy designed to get victims to drop their claims or accept small settlements.
''It's an intimidation tactic that forces people to choose between privacy and justice,'' she said.
But Murphy also said, ''If you sue for emotional damage or psychological harm, by definition you've waived any right to confidentiality because the person you're suing has the right to challenge the legitimacy and integrity of your claim.''
Michael Rezendes can be reached at rezendes@globe.com.
This isn't a new sin. It's called breaking the seal of the confessional.
Posted by: Mike G on January 19, 2003 02:16 PMIts one of the original ten. Thou shalt not bear false witness. The church is full of sinners, only sinners need to join, perfect people are saved already.
Posted by: JamesP on January 19, 2003 03:14 PM"Wendy Murphy, a former prosecutor who represents sexual abuse victims, said the right of defense attorneys to depose therapists and examine their records in such cases has been misused by some defense attorneys as a strategy designed to get victims to drop their claims or accept small settlements."
The Catholic Church is such a vile and evil institution. There is simply no way that you can rationally blame a few individuals and ignore the overall organization. The latter encourages moral corruption and despicable behavior. This is what inevitably happens when any institutional structure rejects adequate checks and balances. Those in power will almost certainly make arbitrary decisions that further their power and control.
I see: the Church should be subject to legal liability without being subject to quite typical legal defenses.
If one believes that the Church is subject to ordinary legal liability but is not entitled to ordinary legal defenses, one is a bigot.
Is that you?
Posted by: Thomas on January 20, 2003 06:54 AMThis is a difficult issue for me. What seems quite sad is that the Church leaders do not appear willing to ask if a less rigid leadership structure might be far more beneficial for Catholics, and whether expanding the roles of women in the Church is necessary. The extent of the abuse problem has been truly astounding. Merely defending the Church can be too cruel and is far less important than reform.
Posted by: on January 20, 2003 07:22 AMThe Catholic Church is entitled to use whatever legal defenses it thinks are in its best interests. And they're absolutely free to be as aggressive as the law and legal ethics allow.
The problem for the Catholic Church is that (in theory, at least) they're supposed to represent a higher standard than the legal and moral minimums.
If the Church hadn't adopted such an aggressive legal approach almost from the beginning, then perhaps there could have been many more settlements and resolutions taking place out of court on halfway amicable grounds. But the no-holds-barred aggressive legal tactics of the Church have created an environment where open legal warfare is the norm, and this looks like a battle the Church is bound to lose - even if they win in court, they'll lose the hearts and minds of their subjects.
I know lots of Catholics who've either switched religions or have begun to give the issue serious consideration. The Boston debacle will accelerate the process.
Posted by: Anarchus on January 20, 2003 08:46 AM"I see: the Church should be subject to legal liability without being subject to quite typical legal defenses.
If one believes that the Church is subject to ordinary legal liability but is not entitled to ordinary legal defenses, one is a bigot.
Is that you?"
"Typical legal defenses?" A religious organization should adhere to the spirit of the law--and not push the legalistic envelope. The Catholic Church should not be trying to find out what it can legally get away with. Much of the crisis today is due to the Church's infatuation with the Jesuit concept of mental reservation.
Posted by: David Thomson on January 20, 2003 09:27 AMTo the contrary, Anarchus. The Church, like any other institution, has an obligation to its members that their contributions not be casually tossed away. That means that when someone sues them and wants to take them to trial--a very aggressive and very rare event in this country--the proper response is a legal defense. And when someone sues them and they are unsure of the merits, or are skeptical of the merits, they have an obligation to vigorously defend the Church from the charges using all available legal means.
Posted by: Thomas on January 20, 2003 09:27 AM>>If one believes that the Church is subject to ordinary legal liability but is not entitled to ordinary legal defenses, one is a bigot.<<
One would have thought that conducting oneself like a Christian would have a higher priority than conducting an "aggressive" legal defense.
If those who run the Archdiocese of Boston believe that conducting an aggressive legal defense is more important than conducting oneself like a Christian, I guess that makes them... lawyers.
Posted by: Brad DeLong on January 20, 2003 09:41 AM>>when someone sues them and they are unsure of the merits, or are skeptical of the merits<<
Does anyone believe that this applies here? Is anyone "unsure of the merits"?
Posted by: Brad DeLong on January 20, 2003 09:43 AM"The Church, like any other institution, has an obligation to its members that their contributions not be casually tossed away. "
True. And that obligation would have been far, far better served years ago. Perhpaps by dealing with child molesting priests in a way other than switching parishes, and keeping things hushed up, while those priests continued their actions.
Posted by: Barry on January 20, 2003 10:11 AMPleased to be on the DeLong side, for a change.
:>) REGARDING:
>>> To the contrary, Anarchus. The Church, like any other institution, has an obligation to its members that their contributions not be casually tossed away. That means that when someone sues them and wants to take them to trial--a very aggressive and very rare event in this country--the proper response is a legal defense. And when someone sues them and they are unsure of the merits, or are skeptical of the merits, they have an obligation to vigorously defend the Church from the charges using all available legal means.<<<
First, legal defense is one thing, all-out litigation is another entirely. Most lawyers will tell you that.
Second, darn tootin' the Church has a "moral" responsibility to its members that their donations not be frittered away. In this case, the best Christian strategy would also be the money saving strategy. But the diocese in Boston has been much too concerned with husbanding its geld and not nearly concerned enough with shepherding its flock. Everybody loses, except the lawyers.
At this point, the Boston diocese is probably bankrupt in every possible manner, so to some exent the money-saving strategy is a moot point . . . . . which, oddly enough, is yet one more reason to do the right thing, but they STILL won't.
Posted by: Anarchus on January 20, 2003 10:16 AM>>One would have thought that conducting oneself like a Christian would have a higher priority than conducting an "aggressive" legal defense. <<
I have been a Catholic all my life but you lose me in the fog of "conducting oneself like a Christian". Within the limits of this world, what do we know of the quality of the offers of the defense versus the demands of the plaintiffs? Would it be “Christian” to concede to the plaintiffs if they decide to ask for twice as much? Ten times as much? Forgetting about the church leaders, how many victims will be created if church properties and resources are granted to the plaintiffs?
There is nothing in this world or the next that can justify the actions of the leadership of my church. Not now. Not ever. I agree that the church leaders, starting from the very top, are too concern about keeping their power. But for those who are questioning their faith, remember, “it’s the sacraments stupid”, not the church hierarchy.
"But for those who are questioning their faith, remember, “it’s the sacraments stupid”, not the church hierarchy."
I’m sorry but this statement makes you a heretic. Orthodox Catholic theology is adamantly clear that one cannot dichotomize between the Sacraments and the hierarchy. The Pope and the bishops run the show. That is one of the central reasons why there was a Protestant Reformation.
Posted by: David Thomson on January 20, 2003 04:58 PMBrad, are you suggesting that anyone who avails themselves of legal defenses is acting in an unChristian manner? Is this the sort of accusation you toss around lightly? If so, I'd expect to see dozens of references, since this is an everyday occurrence.
And, yes, there is substantial question as to the merits, which means there is substantial question both as to the factual underpinnings of each allegation and as to the amount of damages in each case where the underlying allegations are proven. This is, after all, a typical case.
regarding thomas's views on.. ah, maximizing soulholder value in the face of litigation, i think no one is saying the church shouldn't retain a lawyer. i think brad and others are saying that getting victims counselors and then using them to discredit or humiliate the victims of their own priesthood is.. morally questionable. there are a lot of things that are legal that are also very mean and probably unchristian- the boston church is reminding me more and more of big tabacco in that way. but the church doesn't have an addictive effect to lean on. it has to win and keep hearts, which is a higher priority (presumably) than fighting an elegant and ingenous legal battle.
Posted by: quinn norton on January 20, 2003 11:23 PM“...the boston church is reminding me more and more of big tabacco”
Exactly. The sad thing is that these bishops are so corrupt that they are blind to the damage being done to the Church’s image. This is the inherent problem with an organization which places so much power in the hands of its elite few. The temptation is overwhelming that the latter will soon think that the world revolves around them. There is little hope for the Catholic church in a democratic society unless the laity demand a larger role. The Roman Church is growing only in areas of the world where illiteracy and dictatorships are the norm.
Posted by: David Thomson on January 21, 2003 05:54 AMThe Archdiocese in Boston is on its way to (maybe) winning the legal battle but losing the war for the hearts and minds of its patrons.
I think that's mostly what's been said here. And there was optimism that the Catholic Church might change its approach once Cardinal Law stepped out of the picture, and that still may happen, but the early signs are not encouraging.
Posted by: Anarchus on January 21, 2003 08:38 AM"...but the early signs are not encouraging."
The Catholic Church still remains a reactionary and clerical dominated institution. Inevitably, such a social milieu encourages a mindset where the bishops tacitly perceive the laity as dirt underneath their feet. Catholic lay people are second class citizens who should merely pray, pay, and keep silent.
Posted by: David Thomson on January 21, 2003 09:25 AMThe Catholic Church does more and more resemble Big Tobacco, in that both are targets for fee hungry lawyers.
David--you're an undereducated bigot, uncomfortable in the modern pluralist world. But I don't mean any offense by that...
Posted by: Thomas on January 21, 2003 01:27 PM<> David, would you be kind enough to share with me the source of your 'Orthodox Catholic theology'. I have never heard anyone else make the claims that you have made. Maybe I am just not properly educated in the teaching of the Church. So please share with me your source.
Posted by: Robert E. Flaherty on January 21, 2003 09:05 PM“David, would you be kind enough to share with me the source of your 'Orthodox Catholic theology'. I have never heard anyone else make the claims that you have made. Maybe I am just not properly educated in the teaching of the Church. So please share with me your source.”
Catholic theology is premised upon the Church’s extraordinary and ordinary magisterium. Vatican I formally recognized the so-called infallibility of the Pope. However, in 1950 the encyclical Humani Generis (http://www.ewtn.com/library/ENCYC/P12HUMAN.HTM) extended papal authority to include even non-infallible pronouncements. Needless to ad, many Catholics feel uncomfortable with the Church’s claims of infallibility. Even conservatives William F. Buckley and Michael Novak dissented from Humane Vitae, the birth control encyclical. Also, so did Jesuit Avery Dulles who is now a Cardinal.
It might, though, be best for a moment to put aside the abstract arguments concerning Catholic theology and simply look at the practical reality. The American Catholic Bishops have thoroughly disgraced themselves over the child abuse issue. No other major denomination has similar problems. Then again, the vast majority of non-Catholic institutions do not grant their leaders such autocratic powers.
Posted by: David Thomson on January 22, 2003 04:40 AMDavid, my request to you was in response to your assertion that I was a heretic for stating “it’s the sacraments stupid”. Though I might be a heretic, your response did not support that claim. Whether the pope is infallible or not does not prove or disprove the argument that at its core, the Catholic is about the sacraments. "1118. "The sacraments are 'of the Church' in the double sense that they are 'by her' and 'for her.' They are 'by the Church,' for she is the SACRAMENT of Christ's action at work in her through the mission of the Holy Spirit. They are 'for the Church' in the sense that 'the sacraments make the Church,'[St. Augustine, De civ. Dei, 22, 17: PL 41, 779; cf. St. Thomas Aquinas, STh III, 64,2 ad 3.] since they manifest and communicate to men, above all in the Eucharist, the mystery of communion with the God who is love, One in three persons." (Catechism of the Catholic Church)
I agree that the actions of at least some the bishops borders on being criminal. I just don’t share the level of emotion that I sense that you feel.
Peace to you, David